RE: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down your computer?)

  • From: "Cy Selfridge" <cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:22:46 -0500

Well Yardbird,
I usually don't bother to track things that close either.
I had some spy ware on my previous computer which would just flat suck up
all of the resources available. I believe it was something like "modsync" or
"mopsync". It claimed to be synchronizing something or other.
When the system seems to be running slow I usually go to the task manager
and see what percentage of system resources are available.
If the number is below about 70% I do want to know what is hogging my
processor.
I happen to have a HP computer and HP seems to want to run about 76 jillion
little programs whose function is a complete mystery to me. (LOL)
JAWS does, however, run very, very well on this HP computer and I do like
the USB Triple Talk.
Cy, the Ancient Okie...
 

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:01 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down
your computer?)

cy,
Well, I get what you're saying, but it's generally over my head.  I don't go
in and track the system resources usage of everything like you do. I
generally don't have any problems or frustrations, either, with my
relatively new Dell PC with 512 Mb RAM.  Now, before someone says you just
have to have at least twice that, especially with Jaws, I want to say that
this, and only this situation, with AVG, provides any evidence that there's
any weakness in my system in this way.  It's the only time I have any hangup
of any kind that matters as this does.

So, thanks for the thorough explanation, but I'll just go on bearing with
AVG so long as it's doing a fine job and I don't have any earth-shakingly
time-sensitive work to do on the machine while it's running.

From: "Cy Selfridge" <cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down
your computer?)


Well, I have noticed that Explorer is gobbling up quite a few cycpes when
AVG does its thing.
I believe I have been told that Explorer actually does the file look up for
AVG?
Now, as for Elequence, any software synthesizer would consume more cycles
than the hardware synthesizers such as DEC or Triple Talk.
In the old days whith processors below 1 ghz Eloquence did slow down the
works. The speech was also not nearly as good as it is today.
When I got my first processor faster than 1 ghz the quality of speech made
agigantic improvement.
With my current processor which is one of the AMD 64 bit jobbies it does not
seem to matter that much.
Does this help?
Cy, the Ancient Okie...

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:37 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down
your computer?)

cy,

why are you mentioning Windows Explorer?  I don't necessarily have Windows
Explorer running while AVG is doing its scan.  I don't usually have much
running at all, except OE and maybe IE.

As for the second thing, I guess you changed the subject and are suggesting
that Eloquence may be more troublesome in a situation like this than another
type of synth?

Just trying to clarify.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down
your computer?)


Yes,
I have noticed that the system does run a little slower when AVG is doing
its thing. It is actually Windows Explorer which is consuming most of the
resources.
Were I using Eloquence I think I would see a little more slow down but I am
using Triple Talk.
Cy, the Ancient Okie...

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Yardbird
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:11 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: AVG, a lovable system resources hog (was:Can Jaws slow down your
computer?)

Cy,
I'm a longtime user of AVG Free Edition, and I certainly haven't had any
virus hassles all this time, and I'm not about to try another such program.
But I have to say that while it's running its morning scan of my hard drive,
which takes it more than 25 minutes, it slows down things just terribly.
I'm partially sighted, so I can see that things on the screen are responding
more or less normally to commands I may key in, and I suspect that if I'm
typing an email or something that my typing is also appearing on the screen
as it should.  But Jaws is really crippled by having to operate at this
time.  I press a key, and it may be 20 seconds before Jaws speaks what I've
just done, whether it's a letter I've typed or a control key I've pressed to
execute something.

as soon as AVG finishes its scan, it puts up a closing dialogue that reports
the scan's activities and results, and allows me to close the dialogue if I
don't want to wait 30 seconds for it to close itself.  I generally close it
so I can go on using the computer immediately without that dialogue getting
in Jaws's way or my accidentally hitting a key that activates some control
in the dialogue and screws things up.

Anyway, I've learned to just go make another cup of coffee and listen to
some radio news during this time, and I can live with that.  But just to
chime in.  and of course, this isn't about Jaws itself slowing down things,
so I'll change the subject line.
dialoguew dialgoue ialgoue ,=eduituib
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:51 PM
Subject: RE: ***DHSPAM*** Re: Can Jaws slow down your computer?


Use AVG.
Cy, the Ancient Okie...

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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jeanette
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:22 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: ***DHSPAM*** Re: Can Jaws slow down your computer?


How can I test if it is Norton without getting a virus in the process of no
antivirus software?
Jeanette

----- Original Message -----
From: James Homuth <mailto:james@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: ***DHSPAM*** Re: Can Jaws slow down your computer?

Well, my immediate reaction is to suggest that you replace Norton with
something good that'll actually get the job done and not cost you so much in
the performance department, but I understand that might not be a viable
option for you. At which point, I'm afraid, you're out of luck.

James,
List Admin
At 03:59 PM 9/27/2006, you wrote:
>If it is Worton then how can I fix this?
>Jeanette
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:dennisc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:dennisc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>dennis> >dennis
>To: <mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
><mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:56 PM
>Subject: Re: Can Jaws slow down your computer?
>
>i bet its the norton thats doing it.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:jtorres6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jtorres6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Jeanette> >Jeanette
>To: <mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
><mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:22 PM
>Subject: Re: Can Jaws slow down your computer?
>
>xp media addition and I have Norton security. I all ready defragmented,
>checked for errors, and did a dis cleanup. Both computers have been
>slow since I first got them but now there even slower.
>Jeanette
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:dkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Shawn>
>>Shawn
Keen
>To: <mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
><mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:15 PM
>Subject: Re: Can Jaws slow down your computer?
>
>hmmm, what version of windows are you running? 98? XP?
>XP cleans up after itself pretty well I've had it on this work computer
>for over 2 years and everything still runs fairly well.  I've had xp on
>my home computer for  4 years and it is starting to slow down quite a
>bit. 3 or 4 minutes at bootup.
>
>98SE didn't clean house very well and can drasticly slow down after a
>year or 2
>
>other things you might think about, is getting a cleaner for ad aware,
>spy ware, etc.  Defragging all that fun stuff.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:jtorres6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jtorres6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Jeanette> >Jeanette
>To: <mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
><mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:09 PM
>Subject: Re: Can Jaws slow down your computer?
>
>What else could cause computers to be slow? I have alot of memory and
>ram so It should not be slow but it is.
>Jeanette
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:james@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:james@xxxxxxxxxxx>James> >James
Homuth
>To: <mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
><mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:07 PM
>Subject: Re: Can Jaws slow down your computer?
>
>Well, it's no secret JFW can at times be resource intensive. But,
>somehow, I doubt the performance hit you take running it will be very
>much different from if you didn't have it running. Particularly on
>today's computers. I've run several processes I know full well are more
>resource intensive than JFW, and this computer's nothing special, but
>it was still fairly fast all things considered.
>
>James,
>List Admin
>At 02:45 PM 9/27/2006, you wrote:
> >
> >Yeah, it can! that's why when I bought this new laptop I went for
> >over kill.  if jaws slows it down I won't notice it, this laptop is
> >hard core enough to run a neuclear power plant. hehehehe
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From:
> <<mailto:jtorres6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jtorres6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Jeanette>mailto:jtorres6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Je
anette> >Jeanette>mailto:jtorres6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Jeanette
> >To:
> <<mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@fre
elists.org> >jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mailto:jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:24 PM
> >Subject: Can Jaws slow down your computer?
> >
> >I've been using Jaws for 8 years now and I've had 2 computers both of
> >them have always been slow. Can Jaws bee the reason?
> >Jeanette
> >
> >
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