[jawsscripts] Re: steps for using hsc re solving issue of Checked and unchecked status of items with unhelpful graphic identification.
- From: "Dean Masters" <dwmasters@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:30:35 -0500
The line doesn't change color that I can see. The line that has the focus
says the font is highlighted. That doesn't mean it is checked or unchecked,
though.
Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:34 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] steps for using hsc re solving issue of Checked and
unchecked status of items with unhelpful graphic identification.
| Dean. does the color of the actual Item change perhaps?
|
| BTW, if you have hsc installed, and connected to your applications,
| even just using the simple connection process, which acomplishes heaps of
| what hsc does anyway,
| i.e. the Use "HotSpotClicker.jsb" line in the top of your jss,
| as long as there are other events in your jss file, it won't work just
with
| that one line in there,
| that should compile, and then work to connect it.
| although I haven't specificly tried it obviously in either of your apps,
but
| just to let you know that you could most probably use it to help you suss
| this from the front end of things. for a start, it's got a built in manual
| per pixel color test utility, utilizing AltShiftNumPad5. Which you can
use
| with either the mouse or invisible cursors.
| It actually speaks each color as you move around with alt+shift+arrows,
but
| I usually disable both that, and the auto graphics read as well, as I find
| them kind of annoying to leave on automatic read.
| you can do that with alt+control+shift+period, and
alt+control+shift+slash.
|
| anywayz, IN this kind of case, you'd probably use the jaws cursor for
| investigative purposes, because you want to see what color a certain pixel
| might change to, when the item is checked, and then what it changes to
when
| clicked again, to uncheck it.
| you may also like to set your mouseNavigation down to 1 pixel at a time
| whilst doing this investigation, by going into home row, then left
arrowing
| and you'll hear jaws say, 2, 1, 50, etc. it wraps around back to the
| highest, so maybe leave it at one if you want.
| So, after focusing your pc cursor on an item, route JawsToPc, then
| move to the left or right of your item maybe, or, if the item itself
changes
| color, then you don't even need to do that. but just find a pixel
somewhere
| in the area of the item, that clearly alters color to reflect what state
the
| checked item is in as you click.
| So leftClick, then hit altShiftNumPad5, to listen, till you find a pixel
| that might reflect the changed state.
| You might obviusly need eyes to assist with this process initially, since
| you won't necessarily know what state is what, unless there's a button
like
| there is in some of these situations, saying "check all," or "uncheck
all."
| if there is, then you wouldn't need eyes.
|
| Then, when you find one, leave the jaws cursor on that pixel, and do the
| following:
|
| 1. begin the hotspot definition process.
| use Control+Alt+Shift+A to begin the wizard, since in this case you
don't
| need words or proper graphics.
|
| 2. then in the first question, when it asks what positioning mode you
want,
| hit p twice till you hear, PcCursorRow.
|
| 3. Go through the steps of the wizard, being careful as always, to make
| correct assessments about removing any dynamic information from whatever
| various windows it offers you, only leaving in there things you're sure
wil
| always be there no matter what state the app is operating in. i.e. remove
| any document names or specialized window names you think might not always
| remain etc.
| I generally by default for example, usually delete totally, any, current,
| Window names it asks for, but leve in something in the rest of any other
| window type requests it asks about.
|
| 4. when you get to label, just label it anything to identify it to you in
| testing, because we're not gunna have that label spoken on hotspot
| activation.
|
| 5. when it asks do you want that spoken, say no. when it asks for a key,
say
| yes, and assign something comfortable for you, control1 or whatever.
| something that won't need to be used in normal operation of your program
| obviously.
|
| 6. then the next step, is to activate the ControlAltShiftF3, Assign a
| UserFunction hotkey.
| when you press that, it should first ask you to choose the hotspot to
which
| you wish to add a post processing function.
|
| 7. Choose the hotspot you've just created, and hit enter.
|
| then it'll give you a list of some predefined user post processing
functions
| to choose from, starting with, "create your own."
|
| 8. arrow down to the second one, HscDecodeHotSpotColor, and press enter.
| it should tell you that the function has been successfully assigned, and
| instruct you to now activate the hotspot to start defining what your going
| to assign to the color changes when they occur.
|
| 9. so go ahead and do that. hit your hotspot key. it should then click
the
| mouse there, so the color will have changed from what it was when you last
| listened to it, be aware of that, and it should ask you, what function
| should run when blah blah blah color is found at that location.
|
| 10. arrow down once and you should hear, HSDSayPhraseByColor. Don't ask me
| why it's d and not c here, but it is. <smile.> then hit enter.
|
| then hsc should say, "enter the phrase to be spoken for color, blah."
|
| 11. type checked or unchecked, as desired, and hit enter.
|
| 12. now, activate your hotspot again. it should click at that location for
| you, and now there should be the altered color there, which it should then
| see, and go through the same process as above again.
| i.e. Firstly ask you what function it should run when it sees that color,
| and then, what should be spoken etc.
| it remembers the last function you assigned as well, making that process
| just that bit sweeter.
|
| I've just tested it here with audio grabber, and it seems to work as
| expected.
| give it a whirl if you like.
|
| From: "Jitendra" <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>
| To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 7:15 PM
| Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: thank you dean, Re: Re: Checked and unchecked
| status of graphic
|
|
| > As I don't have such program, it's only way to install and check if I
can
| > so is this program free? or do you find any color change, or any graphic
| > using ctrl+left or right arrow to check the status of the current item?
| > or do homerow msaa keys return something meaningful?
| > Thank you.
| > Dean Masters wrote:
| > > Is this function supposed to work whenever you run into the window
class
| in
| > > the script? The program I am working on uses a different class. Rather
| than
| > > the TCheckList it uses TEasyCheckList.unicodeClass.
| > >
| > > I commented out the line from your script that had the window class
and
| > > created a new line that included the one in my program. I then added a
| Say
| > > to speak when that class was moved to. I didn't get any sign of the
| class
| > > being recognized.
| > >
| > > Also in this class there doesn't seem to be a graphic representing the
| > > checkbox at all. there is nothing at all to let you know if there is a
| > > checkbox or which items in the list view have been selected.
| > >
| > > I have gotten the checkboxes in another window class to be spoken when
| > > changed or when arrowing up or down the list.
| > >
| > > Thanks,
| > > Dean
| > > ----- Original Message -----
| > > From: "Jitendra" <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>
| > > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:30 PM
| > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: thank you dean, Re: Re: Checked and
unchecked
| > > status of graphic
| > >
| > >
| > > | Thanks, I remember of reading some of your messages days back, but
let
| > > | me know if it works for you,.
| > > | Dean Masters wrote:
| > > | > thanks for this. I have a Bible software program that uses this
| window
| > > | > class. I can't see the checkboxes in them. There seems to be no
| graphic
| > > | > either. but I will see if this function helps.
| > > | >
| > > | > Dean
| > > | >
| > > | > ----- Original Message -----
| > > | > From: "Jitendra" <jeet.invincible@xxxxxxxxx>
| > > | > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > > | > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:48 PM
| > > | > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Checked and unchecked status of graphic
| > > | >
| > > | >
| > > | > | Hello, After having that much trouble, and asking you all, I was
| able
| > > to
| > > | > | discover the following, it solves my problem, and hope useful to
| some
| > > of
| > > | > | you as well. its not that much complicated or special though.
| > > | > | Void Function CheckStatus ()
| > > | > | Var
| > > | > | Handle hwnd,
| > > | > | Int Color,
| > > | > | string Class
| > > | > | Let hwnd = GetFocus ()
| > > | > | Let Class = GetWindowClass (hwnd)
| > > | > | If Class == "TCheckListBox" Then
| > > | > | SaveCursor ()
| > > | > | JAWSCursor ()
| > > | > | SaveCursor ()
| > > | > | RouteJAWSToPc ()
| > > | > | PriorCharacter ()
| > > | > | Let Color = GetColorText ()
| > > | > | If Color == "0" Then
| > > | > | SayFormattedMessage (OT_MESSAGE, "checked")
| > > | > | Else
| > > | > | SayFormattedMessage (OT_MESSAGE, "not checked")
| > > | > | EndIf
| > > | > | EndIf
| > > | > | EndFunction
| > > | > | Thanks everyone, specially david and Jeff.
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