I'd assign that to the Alt+Left and Alt+Right so as to still use left and right within the html window.
Thanks, Dennis Brown----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Masters" <dwmasters@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:11 PM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
That sounds like it might be the way to go. There are several windows on thedesktop so passing by JAWS sounds like it might work. Dean ----- Original Message ----- From: "john.falter" <john.falter@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:00 PM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same IconHow about JawsKey+3 to pass key Through) then right arrow? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Masters" <dwmasters@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:34 PM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon > thanks. I'll check this out when I have time at home. > > Dean > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Huskins, Wayne" <Wayne.Huskins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:51 PM > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon > >> If the virtual cursor is off and you press an arrow do you move to a > new> chapter? > If so, try the following to move to the next chapter: > > if GetJCFOption (OPT_VIRTUAL_PC_CURSOR)==1 then > SetJCFOption (OPT_VIRTUAL_PC_CURSOR, 0) > {right arrow} > SetJCFOption (OPT_VIRTUAL_PC_CURSOR, 1) > endIf > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: January 10, 2008 17:50 > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon > > In JAWS you use the arrow keys to read the text. The text area is in > html so > JAWS virtualizes the window. so if I want to go to the next chapter and > hit > the right arrow it will just go to the next character and not to the > next > chapter. so I need to create new keystrokeswith their keystrokes in the > script. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dennis Brown" <DennisTBrown@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:39 PM > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon > >> > If they already use the arrow keys, why would you need to script > > them,> or > am > > I not understanding what you're asking? > > > > Thanks, > > Dennis Brown > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dean Masters" <dwmasters@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:09 PM > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon > > > >> > > thanks. I did find the names of the buttons using MSAA. > > > sincewriting> > > yesterday I found out keystrokes are built in to move between > chapters > but > > > they use the arrow keys. Can I write scriptswith > > > > > > typekey ("leftarrow") > > > > > > to use the built in keystrokes? > > > > > > I like the object list since there are other icons in the toolbar > that > are > > > similar to the ones I was looking at. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dennis Brown" <DennisTBrown@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:45 AM > > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon > > > > > > > > >> One tool might be GetListOfObjects. You can try this by moving to > the > > >> window with JawsCursor, then activating HomeRow, then hit Alt+F9. > This > > > will > > >> give you an idea of how that puppy works. > > >> If you tab to one of the controls, then activate HomeRow, and use > Alt+F9, > > >> you might get the same results. If not, hit Shift+F2 to step up > the > > > window > > >> chain, hitting Alt+F9 after each Shift+F2. > > >> If that works, you may be able to use the GetListOfObjects to step > > >> through > > >> your window's hierarchy. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Dennis Brown > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:09 PM > > >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon > > >> > > >> > > >> > or, alternatively, if this all fails, use HotSpotClicker DEan to > bring > > >> > quick > > >> > and ready access to these Same ICon tools! > > >> > > > >> > http://www.hotSpoitClicker.org > > >> >> > >> > after all, that was the initial driving force behind my > > >> > intention> to > > > have > > >> > it> > >> > developed to what it is today! and jim's done just an amazing > > >> > job> with > > >> > this > > >> > puppy! in my view anywayz. > > >> > one day, whenever I get around to it, 2 years and it hasn't > happened > > > yet, > > >> > grrr, I am going to build an audio and textual quickstart for > > > non-scripter > > >> > newbies, which doesn't exist yet, at least, not one by me, Jim > and > Vic > > >> > have > > >> > both done versions of one though I believe, > > >> > but, man in my view, hsc would get you out of trouble heaps > easiest, > if > > >> > you > > >> > have no MSAA object separation for the icons as dennis has > exhorted > you > > > to > > >> > check for below. > > >> > How continually reliable this solution would be, would in part > depend > > > on:> > >> > A.) whether each graphical icon has it's own separate window > > >> > that> it > > >> > exists > > >> > in; and whether each of these tools/windows thus has it's own > trackable > > >> > attributes, like control ID, or WindowName etc, > > >> > > > >> > or, > > >> > B. whether all the tools Live inside their own one ToolBar > window, > > >> > where > > >> > they cannot be dragged around or moved independently; such that > if > one > > >> > moves, they all move. in which case you'd set your hotSpot > positioning > > >> > mode > > >> > to Current window, rather than it's default of application > window, > for > > >> > maximum reliability, if they did move often. > > >> > or, > > >> > C. how often they might get moved around by other things > happening in > > > the > > >> > program, based on their relative positions to the application > window> > >> > boarder. if they don't move at all, you could just safely > > >> > choose,> > >> > "application window," as the positioning mode/relative boarder > against > > >> > which > > >> > the hotspots were measured. > > >> > you'd of course define each as a separately labellable hotSpot, > once > > >> > you > > >> > knew the purpose of each same Icon tool. BTW this is very, very > common > > > in > > >> > many applications these days. which is why hsc is sooooo groovy! > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > BTW dennis, for my own knowledge, I'd be very keen to have you > resite > > > the > > >> > next part of this story for us all, as to how one might go about > > > scripting > > >> > this kind of sitch up from the back end, as it were, if these > same > > >> > icons > > >> > end > > >> > up Having, separately determineable MSAA names/attributes? some > example > > >> > code > > >> > of how one might best suss that? Because, > > >> > without absolutely checking on this to be sure, but although hsc > I > > > believe > > >> > does monitor the ObjectName as part of it's snapshot when > defining > each > > >> > hotspot, > > >> > I am unsure as to it's present capabilities > > >> > regarding direct MSAA object attributes as settable criteria for > > >> > trackability, when activating the spot. > > >> > and, obviously, it'd be rather nice to have this option as an > > >> > additional > > >> > built in location criteria tool.> > >> > plus, I'd very much like to know how one might go about > > >> > scripting> up> > >> > manually, access to this kind of sitch anyway. i.e. code to > > >> > crawl> > > through > > >> > current window looking for the uniquely determined MSAA object > > >> > attribute > > >> > etc. > > >> > feel like spilling on that one? > > >> > I'm sure you do. > > >> > he he. > > >> > > > >> > thanks. > > >> > > > >> > geoff c. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > From: "Dennis Brown" <DennisTBrown@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:22 AM > > >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon > > >> > > > >> >> > >> >> Do the graphics have MSAA data? Land on one and go into > > >> >> HomeRow> with > > >> >> Insert+Space, then cycle through F10, hitting F9 at each item > through > > > the > > >> >> cycle. See if you get any name, value, description, etc. > > >> >> Also, while in HomeRow, cycle through F3, hitting F1 at each > item > and > > > see > > >> > if > > >> >> it has a unique control ID. > > >> >> Toggle off homeRow with another Insert+Space. > > >> >> > > >> >> Thanks, > > >> >> Dennis Brown > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> >> From: "Dean Masters" <dwmasters@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:16 PM > > >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> When I tried turning graphics mode on all icons in the program > became > > >> >> graphic 0. > > >> >> > > >> >> -----Original Message----- > > >> >> >From: "Huskins, Wayne" <Wayne.Huskins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > >> >> >Sent: Jan 9, 2008 3:27 PM > > >> >> >To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> >> >Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Have you tried turning graphics mode on in configuration > manager/set > > >> >> >options/graphics and symbols? > > >> >> > > > >> >> >W > > >> >> > > > >> >> >-----Original Message----- > > >> >> >From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> >> >[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > >> >> >Sent: January 9, 2008 16:23 > > >> >> >To: JAWS Scripts > > >> >> >Subject: [jawsscripts] Same Icon > > >> >> >> > >> >> >I have QuickVerse 2006 bible software. Some of the items in > > >> >> >the> > > toolbar > > >> >> >have the same icon so you can't distinguish between them. Some > of > > > these > > >> >> >are to go to the previous chapter, section, next chapter, > section. > > >> >> >Depending on the text all of the icons do not appear and if > they > are> > >> >> >labled all get the same label. so then you don't know just > > >> >> >what> the > > >> >> >icons do. Are there any suggestions as to how to remedy this?I > have> > >> >> >tried resetting the screen resolution on my PC but that > > >> >> >doesn't> > >> >> >change > > >> >> >the graphic number for these four icons. They all remain the > same > and > > >> >> >with the same graphic number. > > >> >> > > > >> >> >Thanks, > > >> >> >Dean > > >> >> > > > >> >> >I personally know someone who literally is older than dirt.> > >> >> >If you would like to meet him, please write to me or join us > > >> >> >on> the > > >> >> >Masters List: > > >> >> >masterslist-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >__________ > > >> >> >View the list's information and change your settings at > > >> >> >//www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > >> >> > > > >> >> >__________ > > >> >> >View the list's information and change your settings at > > >> >> >//www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> __________ > > >> >> View the list's information and change your settings at > > >> >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> __________ > > >> >> View the list's information and change your settings at > > >> >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > >> >> > > >> > __________ > > >> > View the list's information and change your settings at > > >> > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> __________ > > >> View the list's information and change your settings at > > >> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > >> > > > > > > __________ > > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
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