[jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon

That sounds like it might be the way to go. There are several windows on the
desktop so passing by JAWS sounds like it might work.

Dean

----- Original Message -----
From: "john.falter" <john.falter@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon


> How about
> JawsKey+3 to pass key Through)
> then right arrow?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dean Masters" <dwmasters@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:34 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
>
>
> > thanks. I'll check this out when I have time at home.
> >
> > Dean
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Huskins, Wayne" <Wayne.Huskins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:51 PM
> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
> >
> >
> > If the virtual cursor is off and you press an arrow do you move to a new
> > chapter?
> > If so, try the following to move to the next chapter:
> >
> > if GetJCFOption (OPT_VIRTUAL_PC_CURSOR)==1 then
> > SetJCFOption (OPT_VIRTUAL_PC_CURSOR, 0)
> > {right arrow}
> > SetJCFOption (OPT_VIRTUAL_PC_CURSOR, 1)
> > endIf
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: January 10, 2008 17:50
> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
> >
> > In JAWS you use the arrow keys to read the text. The text area is in
> > html so
> > JAWS virtualizes the window. so if I want to go to the next chapter and
> > hit
> > the right arrow it will just go to the next character and not to the
> > next
> > chapter. so I need to create new keystrokeswith their keystrokes in the
> > script.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dennis Brown" <DennisTBrown@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:39 PM
> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
> >
> >
> > > If they already use the arrow keys, why would you need to script them,
> > or
> > am
> > > I not understanding what you're asking?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dennis Brown
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dean Masters" <dwmasters@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 2:09 PM
> > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
> > >
> > >
> > > > thanks. I did find the names of the buttons using MSAA. sincewriting
> > > > yesterday I found out keystrokes are built in to move between
> > chapters
> > but
> > > > they use the arrow keys. Can I write scriptswith
> > > >
> > > > typekey ("leftarrow")
> > > >
> > > > to use the built in keystrokes?
> > > >
> > > > I like the object list since there are other icons in the toolbar
> > that
> > are
> > > > similar to the ones I was looking at.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Dennis Brown" <DennisTBrown@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:45 AM
> > > > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> One tool might be GetListOfObjects.  You can try this by moving to
> > the
> > > >> window with JawsCursor, then activating HomeRow, then hit Alt+F9.
> > This
> > > > will
> > > >> give you an idea of how that puppy works.
> > > >> If you tab to one of the controls, then activate HomeRow, and use
> > Alt+F9,
> > > >> you might get the same results.  If not, hit Shift+F2 to step up
> > the
> > > > window
> > > >> chain, hitting Alt+F9 after each Shift+F2.
> > > >> If that works, you may be able to use the GetListOfObjects to step
> > > >> through
> > > >> your window's hierarchy.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Dennis Brown
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:09 PM
> > > >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > or, alternatively, if this all fails, use HotSpotClicker DEan to
> > bring
> > > >> > quick
> > > >> > and ready access to these Same ICon tools!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > http://www.hotSpoitClicker.org
> > > >> >
> > > >> > after all, that was the initial driving force behind my intention
> > to
> > > > have
> > > >> > it
> > > >> > developed to what it is today! and jim's done just an amazing job
> > with
> > > >> > this
> > > >> > puppy! in my view anywayz.
> > > >> > one day, whenever I get around to it, 2 years and it hasn't
> > happened
> > > > yet,
> > > >> > grrr, I am going to build an audio and textual quickstart for
> > > > non-scripter
> > > >> > newbies, which doesn't exist yet, at least, not one by me, Jim
> > and
> > Vic
> > > >> > have
> > > >> > both done versions of one though I believe,
> > > >> > but, man in my view, hsc would get you out of trouble heaps
> > easiest,
> > if
> > > >> > you
> > > >> > have no MSAA object separation for the icons as dennis has
> > exhorted
> > you
> > > > to
> > > >> > check for below.
> > > >> > How continually reliable this solution would be, would in part
> > depend
> > > > on:
> > > >> > A.) whether each graphical icon has it's own separate window that
> > it
> > > >> > exists
> > > >> > in; and whether each of these tools/windows thus has it's own
> > trackable
> > > >> > attributes, like control ID, or WindowName etc,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > or,
> > > >> > B. whether all the tools Live inside their own one ToolBar
> > window,
> > > >> > where
> > > >> > they cannot be dragged around or moved independently; such that
> > if
> > one
> > > >> > moves, they all move. in which case you'd set your hotSpot
> > positioning
> > > >> > mode
> > > >> > to Current window, rather than it's default of application
> > window,
> > for
> > > >> > maximum reliability, if they did move often.
> > > >> > or,
> > > >> > C. how often they might get moved around by other things
> > happening in
> > > > the
> > > >> > program, based on their relative positions to the application
> > window
> > > >> > boarder. if they don't move at all, you could just safely choose,
> > > >> > "application window," as the positioning mode/relative boarder
> > against
> > > >> > which
> > > >> > the hotspots were measured.
> > > >> > you'd of course define each as a separately labellable hotSpot,
> > once
> > > >> > you
> > > >> > knew the purpose of each same Icon tool. BTW this is very, very
> > common
> > > > in
> > > >> > many applications these days. which is why hsc is sooooo groovy!
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > BTW dennis, for my own knowledge, I'd be very keen to have you
> > resite
> > > > the
> > > >> > next part of this story for us all, as to how one might go about
> > > > scripting
> > > >> > this kind of sitch up from the back end, as it were, if these
> > same
> > > >> > icons
> > > >> > end
> > > >> > up Having, separately determineable MSAA names/attributes? some
> > example
> > > >> > code
> > > >> > of how one might best suss that? Because,
> > > >> > without absolutely checking on this to be sure, but although hsc
> > I
> > > > believe
> > > >> > does monitor the ObjectName as part of it's snapshot when
> > defining
> > each
> > > >> > hotspot,
> > > >> > I am unsure as to it's present capabilities
> > > >> > regarding direct MSAA object attributes as settable criteria for
> > > >> > trackability, when activating the spot.
> > > >> > and, obviously, it'd be rather nice to have this option as an
> > > >> > additional
> > > >> > built in location criteria tool.
> > > >> > plus, I'd very much like to know how one might go about scripting
> > up
> > > >> > manually, access to this kind of sitch anyway. i.e. code to crawl
> > > > through
> > > >> > current window looking for the uniquely determined MSAA object
> > > >> > attribute
> > > >> > etc.
> > > >> > feel like spilling on that one?
> > > >> > I'm sure you do.
> > > >> > he he.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > thanks.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > geoff c.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> > From: "Dennis Brown" <DennisTBrown@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:22 AM
> > > >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Do the graphics have MSAA data?  Land on one and go into HomeRow
> > with
> > > >> >> Insert+Space, then cycle through F10, hitting F9 at each item
> > through
> > > > the
> > > >> >> cycle.  See if you get any name, value, description, etc.
> > > >> >> Also, while in HomeRow, cycle through F3, hitting F1 at each
> > item
> > and
> > > > see
> > > >> > if
> > > >> >> it has a unique control ID.
> > > >> >> Toggle off homeRow with another Insert+Space.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Thanks,
> > > >> >> Dennis Brown
> > > >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> >> From: "Dean Masters" <dwmasters@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:16 PM
> > > >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> When I tried turning graphics mode on all icons in the program
> > became
> > > >> >> graphic 0.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> >> >From: "Huskins, Wayne" <Wayne.Huskins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> >> >Sent: Jan 9, 2008 3:27 PM
> > > >> >> >To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> >> >Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Same Icon
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Have you tried turning graphics mode on in configuration
> > manager/set
> > > >> >> >options/graphics and symbols?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >W
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> > > >> >> >From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> >> >[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > >> >> >Sent: January 9, 2008 16:23
> > > >> >> >To: JAWS Scripts
> > > >> >> >Subject: [jawsscripts] Same Icon
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >I have QuickVerse 2006 bible software. Some of the items in the
> > > > toolbar
> > > >> >> >have the same icon so you can't distinguish between them. Some
> > of
> > > > these
> > > >> >> >are to go to the previous chapter, section, next chapter,
> > section.
> > > >> >> >Depending on the text all of the icons do not appear and if
> > they
> > are
> > > >> >> >labled all get the same label. so then you don't know just what
> > the
> > > >> >> >icons do. Are there any suggestions as to how to remedy this?I
> > have
> > > >> >> >tried resetting the screen resolution on my PC but that doesn't
> > > >> >> >change
> > > >> >> >the graphic number for these four icons. They all remain the
> > same
> > and
> > > >> >> >with the same graphic number.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Thanks,
> > > >> >> >Dean
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >I personally know someone who literally is older than dirt.
> > > >> >> >If you would like to meet him, please write to me or join us on
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