Like I said, I used a program called SharpKeys
(https://sharpkeys.codeplex.com/), it works best if the key you are
remapping is not really used for anything else (which is why I chose
the print screen key to become my apps key).
I also used this program when I was trying to make a sun type 6
keyboard workable, that keyboard has a quite different layout of caps
lock, ctrl and alt keys. The only reason I gave up on the type 6 is
that windows simply did not understand all the extra keys it has which
is what I was hoping to use it for.
On 7/19/15, Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
How do you remap the keys?
For example if the laptop doesn't have the Insert key, is it possible to
remap another key to be used as an insert key?
(CapSLock is not a good solution because it requires changing entirely the
way of working).
--Octavian
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From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 7:33 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Laptop recommendation
And the point is that is nowhere near as nice as having a real apps
key, even one that is in a messed up location like my remapped print
screen key. (Before this laptop I'm not sure I had ever encountered a
laptop with an actual print screen key,, would expect that to be
accessed via a Fn-key shift state).
Although for the vast majority of users having a second ins key would
not be very useful. And even for jaws users having an ins key in that
location would not be very helpful.
On 7/18/15, Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
To access taskbar options:
While on taskbar item of interest, try using JAWS to PC command to place
mouse cursor focus on item of interest then use JAWS right mouse click
command (Numpad * or Capslock+9 [laptop]) to show available options.
Down
arrow through list of options.
JR
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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Artur Räpp
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 8:40 PM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Laptop recommendation
Hello,
At least in Windows 8.1 shft+f10 doesn't work on Taskbar icons. (win+t,
arrow to icon and press shft+f10). Nothing happens. As Workaround you
can
press win+alt+1 trough 9 (1 for first icon, 2 for second etc).
Artur
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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 1:23 AM
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Laptop recommendation
Hi Doug,
I'm amazed I was able to amplify even the smallest bit of knowledge for
a
guy with as much computing experience as yours. :)
SHIFT F10 is known as the extended context menu. It shows a couple of
items
which are not found using the normal Windows context menu--one of these
items is "Copy as path," which I previously stated can be used to
quickly
copy full path of a file. This can explain why you have seen different
items
using this process as opposed to another.
Strange enough, the Shift F10 command has always worked for me and never
really showed anything other than what I expected.
JR
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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Lee
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 5:48 AM
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Laptop recommendation
I had not thought Shift+F10 expanded the context menu. Normally I used
Shift+Applications key for that. This is cool.
However, I have seen cases where Shift+F10 doesn't work or even brings up
a
different menu than does the Applications key. I consider this an app
shortcoming when it happens, but it can happen.
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 04:59:24AM -0700, Jeremy wrote:
Hi Soronel,
Regarding your laptop...
Don't know how much vision you have, and pretty sure you've already
considered this, but you can also use Shift F10 rather than Windows
applications key. Pressing Shift F10 offers a couple more options in the
right-click menu such as "copy as path," which will copy to the
clipboard
the full path of file or folder of interest.
Actually, on laptops, I turn the Windows applications key on left side
of
the keyboard into a second Windows key to have access to all windows key
shortcuts--there's lots of them in Windows 8, and I use Shift F10 as
I've
described above.
You might also be able to disable the mouse touchpad so you don't
accidentally touch it. Try this...
1. Press the Windows key to open the Start screen search box and type
the
following as you want to get to the mouse properties:
mouse
2. When the mouse properties screen opens navigate to the tab to the
extreme
right, which I believe is "Hardware tab." (Going off of memory.) 3.
Press
tab to access the various items within this tab. The entry associated
with
your mouse might be the only item in the list. Press up or down arrow to
insure you've highlighted your laptop's touchpad.
Note: you can use the JAWS cursor to read the screen to get a better
idea
of
what this screen's settings can do for you.
4. Tab to the "Disable button" and press spacebar. This will disable
your
touchpad.
5. Tab to Apply and press enter.
6. Tab to OK and press enter.
Now, whenever you accidentally touch the touchpad on your laptop nothing
will happen. Remember that if you ever need any sighted help, you will
need
to enable this function once again using the method outlined above.
You might also want to search around to see if your laptop comes with a
utility which can help you configure how the function keys work. That is,
a
manner of disabling the FN+Function key processes. If such a utility
exists,
you can use it to get the normal use of your function keys without
having
to
first press the FN key. You may also not "have to" update your bios.
Don't forget that CapsLock+8 and CapsLock+9 will simulate pressing left
and
right clicks respectively.
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 12:38 AM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Laptop recommendation
I don't really have a recommendation.
I've been fairly happy with my current HP except that it does not have
an
applications key (I used a tool to remap the print screen key to perform
that action but I find that less than ideal). Also, it seems to get BIOS
updates on an all too regular basis and when that happens the F-key row
gets
set back to action keys (where you need to use the Fn key in combination
in
order to get the normal F key behavior) and when that happens I require
sighted assistance to change the BIOS setting back to what I want.
As far as the application key bit goes I simply doubt I will be buying
another laptop without physically handling the model first. This one has
a
full sized keyboard (meaning it has a separate numpad, arrow keys,
home/end,
page up/page down) but it simply lacks the application key. Sad bit is
this
one is physically a little wider (by about 1/2") than my prior laptop
(which
was also an HP) but the keyboard on the new one is shoved into a
narrower
space. Yet the old laptop had an application key while the new one does
not.
Oh, this one also does not have physical mouse button keys, you are
supposed
to perform some gesture on the touch pad, I find that a little annoying
also. But I believe that is pretty standard now so probably something
that
will just have to be endured.
On 7/17/15, Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
OK, thanks Doug and Soronel. This is good news. :-)
Do you have recommendations for a certain brand or model that offers a
little better accessible keyboard by chance?
--Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 3:18 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Laptop recommendation
High-resolution laptops can break scripts that run against old,
non-DPI-aware applications. I'm not sure if changing the screen
resolution would fix this because I haven't tried, but I fully expect
that tactic to succeed. I would not tend to avoid a good laptop
because of the high-DPI issues. I am running one of those things
right now. :-)
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 02:22:27AM +0300, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Hello,
Can you please tell me if the laptops with very high resolution like
~
1900
x 100 or even ~ 3000 x 2000 dpi can create a problem for JAWS scripts?
Or if we manually set the resolution to something low like 1024 x
768, then it doesn't matter the max possible resolution of display?
I am searching for a good laptop and I want to know if I should avoid
something.
Thanks.
--Octavian
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