I can't recall using the right hand windows key even on keyboards that have it.
On 7/18/15, Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, it’s a bit weird at first, but since most laptops don't have a second
Windows key on the right side of spacebar, when one remaps the Windows
applications key to become a second Windows key, Shift F10 is not a problem
whatsoever given the advantages of a second Windows key.
JR
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And I still don't find it as convenient as a real applications key.
On 7/18/15, Jeremy <jeremy.richards7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Doug,
I'm amazed I was able to amplify even the smallest bit of knowledge
for a guy with as much computing experience as yours. :)
SHIFT F10 is known as the extended context menu. It shows a couple of
items which are not found using the normal Windows context menu--one
of these items is "Copy as path," which I previously stated can be
used to quickly copy full path of a file. This can explain why you
have seen different items using this process as opposed to another.
Strange enough, the Shift F10 command has always worked for me and
never really showed anything other than what I expected.
JR
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I had not thought Shift+F10 expanded the context menu. Normally I used
Shift+Applications key for that. This is cool.
However, I have seen cases where Shift+F10 doesn't work or even brings
up a different menu than does the Applications key. I consider this an
app shortcoming when it happens, but it can happen.
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 04:59:24AM -0700, Jeremy wrote:
Hi Soronel,
Regarding your laptop...
Don't know how much vision you have, and pretty sure you've already
considered this, but you can also use Shift F10 rather than Windows
applications key. Pressing Shift F10 offers a couple more options in
the right-click menu such as "copy as path," which will copy to the
clipboard the full path of file or folder of interest.
Actually, on laptops, I turn the Windows applications key on left side
of the keyboard into a second Windows key to have access to all
windows key shortcuts--there's lots of them in Windows 8, and I use
Shift F10 as I've described above.
You might also be able to disable the mouse touchpad so you don't
accidentally touch it. Try this...
1. Press the Windows key to open the Start screen search box and type
the following as you want to get to the mouse properties:
mouse
2. When the mouse properties screen opens navigate to the tab to the
extreme right, which I believe is "Hardware tab." (Going off of
memory.) 3. Press tab to access the various items within this tab. The
entry associated with your mouse might be the only item in the list.
Press up or down arrow to insure you've highlighted your laptop's
touchpad.
Note: you can use the JAWS cursor to read the screen to get a better
idea of what this screen's settings can do for you.
4. Tab to the "Disable button" and press spacebar. This will disable
your touchpad.
5. Tab to Apply and press enter.
6. Tab to OK and press enter.
Now, whenever you accidentally touch the touchpad on your laptop
nothing will happen. Remember that if you ever need any sighted help,
you will need to enable this function once again using the method outlined
above.
You might also want to search around to see if your laptop comes with
a utility which can help you configure how the function keys work.
That is, a manner of disabling the FN+Function key processes. If such
a utility exists, you can use it to get the normal use of your
function keys without having to first press the FN key. You may also
not "have to" update your bios.
Don't forget that CapsLock+8 and CapsLock+9 will simulate pressing
left and right clicks respectively.
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I don't really have a recommendation.
I've been fairly happy with my current HP except that it does not have
an applications key (I used a tool to remap the print screen key to
perform that action but I find that less than ideal). Also, it seems
to get BIOS updates on an all too regular basis and when that happens
the F-key row gets set back to action keys (where you need to use the
Fn key in combination in order to get the normal F key behavior) and
when that happens I require sighted assistance to change the BIOS
setting back to what I want.
As far as the application key bit goes I simply doubt I will be buying
another laptop without physically handling the model first. This one
has a full sized keyboard (meaning it has a separate numpad, arrow
keys, home/end, page up/page down) but it simply lacks the application
key. Sad bit is this one is physically a little wider (by about 1/2")
than my prior laptop (which was also an HP) but the keyboard on the
new one is shoved into a narrower space. Yet the old laptop had an
application key while the new one does not.
Oh, this one also does not have physical mouse button keys, you are
supposed to perform some gesture on the touch pad, I find that a
little annoying also. But I believe that is pretty standard now so
probably something that will just have to be endured.
On 7/17/15, Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
OK, thanks Doug and Soronel. This is good news. :-)
Do you have recommendations for a certain brand or model that offers
a little better accessible keyboard by chance?
--Octavian
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High-resolution laptops can break scripts that run against old,
non-DPI-aware applications. I'm not sure if changing the screen
resolution would fix this because I haven't tried, but I fully
expect that tactic to succeed. I would not tend to avoid a good
laptop because of the high-DPI issues. I am running one of those
things right now. :-)
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 02:22:27AM +0300, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Hello,
Can you please tell me if the laptops with very high resolution like
~
1900
x 100 or even ~ 3000 x 2000 dpi can create a problem for JAWS scripts?
Or if we manually set the resolution to something low like 1024 x
768, then it doesn't matter the max possible resolution of display?
I am searching for a good laptop and I want to know if I should
avoid something.
Thanks.
--Octavian
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