Just a number is *not* a humane error message. Nigel See the book the humane interface by Jef Raskin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:32 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Strange behaviour with I E 7 > Do you know if you have any additional toolbars, like Yahoo or Google, or > some other toolbar that has been installed. > Regards. > > Tristram Llewellyn > Sight and Sound Technology > Technical Support > www.sightandsound.co.uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: keith > To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:55 AM > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Strange behaviour with I E 7 > > > Hi Tris, > > Many thanks for your reply. > > My problem is still persisting. > > I have reproduced it twice already this morning. > > Pressing escape does nothing. > > Interrogating the window title, Jaws says: > "Title is: Jaws for Windows 8.0 Windows Internet Explorer Menu Bar". > > Bear in mind here, please, that this is the FS page about Jaws 8.0, and I > am > using Jaws 7.10, with the update to use I E 7. > > The PC cursor is then currently active, not the virtual one. > > Pressing the Alt Key, Jaws says: > > "Leaving Menu Bar, Menu Bar". > > I haven't made any changes to the custom settings. > > I then have no option but to close down I E 7. > > It's very strange, and I've never experience this behaviour before > installing I E 7. > > With best wishes, > > Keith > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tristram Llewellyn > Sent: 22 November 2006 10:17 > To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Strange behaviour with I E 7 > > > OK, I have tried this to the letter and this one is proving stubbornly > unreproduceable with Jaws 8.0. What is happening on your system > definitely > should not be the case, in fact Jaws should be able to remember the > actual > position on the web page you left after highlighting your text copying > and > then pasting it into motepad when you return to IE7. > In most cases the IE7 menubar is not visible until you press the alt key > whichi activates the menu bar and makes it appear on screen from its > otherwise hidden position (although this can be changed it is not > important > for Jaws users to do). I have a theory which you could try which is to > use > the escape key when you hear "menubar" on the return trip back to IE7 and > then use the cursor keys, does this at least give you the web page text > again? This doesn't fully answer the problem of exactly what is going on > but at least we would be closer. > > Also have you made any particular custom settings or merge settings from > a > previous Jaws installation perhaps? > > Regards. > > Tristram Llewellyn > Sight and Sound Technology > Technical Support > www.sightandsound.co.uk > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.14/547 - Release Date: > 22/11/2006 > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq