Hi Steve, It sounds as if your experts at work think like those at my son's. Reverting to one of your original questions, I understand that the problems are indeed mainly the product of how the .PDF file is set up. Sometimes you have a file which is a mixture of what is in essence text and what is in reality a picture of text. Without help, Jaws can only read the former, which, as you will have ascertained, is normally the introductory paragraph and/or the main headings. Another possible approach, if you have a program like Kurzweil is to feed your .PDF file into that so that an OCR function can be performed on it. I've never got round to trying this out, but some people swear by it. What I most want to do however is to be able to look directly at the original formatting. I have a 650 page book on Italian grammar, which, in some passages, has been horribly scrambled in the course of being translated into Word. Lists and tables normally result in chaos, especially if the table is asymmetrical with some entries occupying more than one line. The other hazard is that the spaces between the words frequently disappear. Fortunately, I have a braille display, so you can look for tell-tale signs like capital letters in the middle of words. Good luck with your battle Colin -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steve Holmes Sent: 13 November 2005 11:11 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: PDF and Jaws. Hi Colin, I read your response with interest. I'm pleased someone else is having a similar experience to me. What I find irritating is that often what is put into PDF is what I want to copy to my to my computer to get a copy. I've tried in the beginning to read a word at a time and selecting the whole thing that way but it takes ages but originally did work. Now Jaws won't speak when I do this and, by selecting all Jaws seems to throw a wobbly. Steve