Yes, I can add, cut or delete as normal. Selecting what to cut and delete is a problem, as you can guess. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:37 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JFW 8 and Word 2003 if you add any text to the file does this get added or will Word not let you add info? If you try to add info to a file then save it then go back into the file has the text you added been included? This behaviour reminds me a bit of what happens if I view a file in reading layout though this is not generally the default when you start up. If you really can'tt sort the problem you could ininstall ofice and reinstall it again in the hope the problem would be solved but it would be nice to crack it without having to do this. Cheers Graham Graham Page Home Phone: 0207 265 9493 Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:33 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JFW 8 and Word 2003 The up and down arrows work fine, but the left and right are just blank. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JFW 8 and Word 2003 how about just using left, right, up and down arrow keys on their own? Graham Page Home Phone: 0207 265 9493 Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 6:03 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JFW 8 and Word 2003 Hi Graham Start up task pane was not checked, but highlight was. I unchecked it but it made no difference. The problem is the same with new documents or saved documents. When trying to navigate this line, for instance: Health, safety and security using control plus right arrow from the left margin, it just says "Health comma" . If I keep pressing control right arrow, it says "Health comma, space, health comma, space..." and that's all it will read. Insert plus down arrow doesn't say a thing. Thanks Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:46 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JFW 8 and Word 2003 Hi Barry. the only other place I can think of to look is the view tab. Go to tools menu, options and view tab. I cannot see what would be causing your problem though other than perhaps there is an option called something like task pane on startup which you need to uncheck. Can you read documents that are already created or does this also not work? Can you not read anything you have typed when you use the cursor keys? Regards graham Graham Page Home Phone: 0207 265 9493 Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:37 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JFW 8 and Word 2003 Thanks, Graham, but these are all set as you suggest. I'm thinking of dropping the laptop in the bath! Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:13 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JFW 8 and Word 2003 if it says pause then, perhaps not surprisingly, it is the pause key you are pressing rather than the scroll lock key. Generally the Print screen, scroll lock and pause keys are arranged in a group of 3 above the block of 6 but, as you have found, some keyboards differ in this respect. In terms of solving your problem, the only other thing that comes to mind is try going to the view menu in Word and then pressing enter on the ToolBars option. Formatting and Standard should be checked. Also, in the view menu, see if Task Pane is checked. if it is, press enter to uncheck it. Sometimes, having extra toolbars showing can hide text but I don't see why tab is reporting only 0 inches when you press it. Still, try looking at these options and see if they help. Regards Graham Graham Page Home Phone: 0207 265 9493 Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:57 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JFW 8 and Word 2003 On the keyboard I'm using, a plug in keyboard, the scroll lock is not above the home key as it is on my PC keyboard, it is, so I'm told, at the top right of the keyboard. However, when I press it it says 'pause' but it has no effect on reading the Word doc. Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:33 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: JFW 8 and Word 2003 It's a long shot, but is Scroll Lock turned on? George. -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry Hill Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 1:39 PM To: Jaws list Subject: [jaws-uk] JFW 8 and Word 2003 Hi all Someone has messed with my laptop and now I can't navigate in Word using the control cursors and insert cursors. Also, tab says zero inches even though I press it a few times. The navigation keys work fine in Outlook. Does anyone know what has happened? 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