Mainly for reasons of poor health I've not used my Iyonix much, so maybe I'm asking about long-known problems. My Panther has 5.09 in it and I've not applied any updates yet (because I've not found out what gets updated, how to make backups, be able to reverse updates etc etc yet). And, on several of the times I've turned the machine on I've been very frustrated that it just hasn't started up properly. Usually I give up until I next have time to think about it ... which is now. In the last few days I've turned the machine on several times. Mostly it has started fine. But yesterday it took half a dozen attempts before it was usable. The machine has no apps seen/started in !Boot (ie nothing extra to the supplied !Boot). There's two graphics cards though only currently one monitor plugged into a card I labelled as #1. Keyboard & mouse are pluggd into USB sockets on the rear. It's got USB2. Yesterday I switched it on at the mains, at the rear PSU switch and pressed the soft power-on button. I left the room and came back a few minutes later. There was nothing displayed on the monitor. I pressed the soft reset button. After a few seconds it beeped and I got the standard initial display: RISC OS 512 MB 80321 Processor Acorn ADFS message saying Reporter was loaded Boot:Choices....various messages message about DHCP establishing an IP address (that appears for about 3-4 seconds then vanishes again) Boot:Choices.Boot.PreDesk.Interim - and that's that. Five minutes later I'm still looking at the ..Interim message and the eggtimer is frantically pouring all the sands of Egypt. Suggestion: can this process, whatever it is, report what it is doing? A status message every - say - 10 seconds would be useful. So I press reset again. Same thing happens. After a while I press reset again, and still it only gets to Interim. Next I try powering off at the PSU as well; no help. Next I try powering off at the mains as well; no help. On one occasion I do see that some messages have been written to the display at some point (at/after some of the Boot:Choices... lines), but due to the way that Boot regularly writes details and then removes them again, I didn't have time to read them. Suggestion: please change the way this works so that every boot-time message stays on the screen. I can't help comparing this with a Linux bootup where as each serrvice starts it says so on the console. At least one knows what's going on. I did try a Shift-Boot at one stage. The shift key press was ignored, and boot proceeded as before. Oddly on that occasion it then ran to completion. -- Jeremy C B Nicoll, Edinburgh, Scotland - my opinions are my own. --- To alter your preferences or leave the group, visit //www.freelists.org/list/iyonix-support Other info via //www.freelists.org/webpage/iyonix-support