In a message dated 11/9/2011 2:28:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dwobser@xxxxxxxxx writes: What I was asking was, if he has, and has a copy of it, I can use it as a starting point/guide. I've never written a grant proposal before, so if I don't have to do it in the dark, all the better. That's okay. They don't bite. It's always a good idea to start somewhere. Perhaps Fred will bring something with him tonight.