Hi Diane, Before import the subdrawing, move all the power plane shapes outside the board. Then you can pull back them into same location. Regards Ponraj.M ----- Original Message ----- From: Dickoff, Diane J To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 11:27 PM Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Allegro Sub drawing / Via stitch problem We have thousands of these vias so that is why I don't like to use a net. Sometimes when we are doing this, we put a little shape inside the via and copy both. Diane. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Salberg Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:33 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Allegro Sub drawing / Via stitch problem Sounds like a valid request. Anytime you have a via in a shape NOT connected to a pin / pad by a trace...seems to be able to take on different plane net names from time to time. For this problem, I simply route a trace inside the shape from pin to EACH via. Regards, Mark Dickoff, Diane J wrote: We have made the request with Cadence in a future release that you can assign a netname to a via. They have not agreed to it yet but it may appear in a future release. If the via is assigned a netname then it would keep that name in export subdrawing. We are asking for it to work with defining B/B vias in a pattern and then copy the pattern with it keeping the correct net names. Diane. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Salberg Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 7:39 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Allegro Sub drawing / Via stitch problem Hi Ismail, I did that and the planes retain their net names with no problem. But, the vias drop their net association. Thanks for the reply, Mark ISMAIL wrote: Hi Mark, While Export-Subdrawing, goto the "options" tab in the control panel and check the "Preserve nets of shapes" is enabled. Try , hope this helps. Thanks, Ismail. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Mark Salberg <msalberg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Cadence User Group <icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, 27 July, 2009 6:33:42 PM Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Allegro Sub drawing / Via stitch problem Hello all, When Exporting a Sub-Drawing I found that any vias in a shape used for stitching...connected to a shape, but has no traces to a pin...looses connectivity and sometimes connect to a different plane after import sub-drawing. The only way I have found to fix it is to ALSO route a trace from a pin to the via to force the connection. Is there a way to locate any occurrences of this prior to exporting a Sub-Drawing? Thought maybe dangling wire reporting as dangling via...but a Dangling via is defined a a via with only one connection from a pin. These vias simply dropped in a shape for thermal reasons do not get flagged. Any thoughts as to how to find them in a design? 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