[PCB_FORUM] Re: .4 mm pitch bga's
- From: "Gino Papelera" <da.papelera@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 17:30:22 -0600
Sam,
Thank You for the info.
Gino
On 10/30/06, Dave Schaefer <dave.schaefer@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Sam,
Westwood Nanya used to have a huge repository of HDI information when
Happy Holden was the chief technical contact. I believe the articles are
still accessible under brochures (you'll need to register):
http://www.westwoodpcb.com/1_home_3_buttons.htm
Dave
>
> From: sjchar3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: 2006/10/30 Mon AM 09:23:18 CST
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: .4 mm pitch bga's
>
> We usually call the board house and ask them if they can do it. The
smallest we've gone is .5mm pad with .3 mm drill. The BGA was a 7x7 array
but the ic used only the two outside rows. We used via in pad, now I need to
write up a paper on how i did the board. Anyone seen good documentation on
this subject (BGAs, Microvias)?
>
> Thanks Sam
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rmora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 9:39 AM
> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: .4 mm pitch bga's
>
>
> Gino,
> Wow, where will it end.
> We use a .25mm pad with a .1mm hole and that's pushing it. But our
application
> is a high volume product.
> What is the BGA pad size you are using?
> Are you using stacked vias?
> Are the BGA pads masked defined or etch defined.
> These will all have an impact on the via pad, trace space numbers.
> Are you under filling the BGA?
>
> For the very dense designs we use ALIVH technology in an 8 layer stack
up.
> This allows us to put a via in pad and route directly down to any layer.
>
> Ron
>
> At 10:06 AM 10/27/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>
> Everyone,
>
> What's your recommendation for microvia sizes, line and spacing for
routing .4mm bga's?
>
> I saw a technotes using .065mm line and space between 0.2mm pad/0.1
drill micro via. Anyone using these in their designs?
>
> regards,
> Gino
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Sam, Westwood Nanya used to have a huge repository of HDI information when Happy Holden was the chief technical contact. I believe the articles are still accessible under brochures (you'll need to register): http://www.westwoodpcb.com/1_home_3_buttons.htm Dave > > From: sjchar3@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: 2006/10/30 Mon AM 09:23:18 CST > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: .4 mm pitch bga's > > We usually call the board house and ask them if they can do it. The smallest we've gone is .5mm pad with .3 mm drill. The BGA was a 7x7 array but the ic used only the two outside rows. We used via in pad, now I need to write up a paper on how i did the board. Anyone seen good documentation on this subject (BGAs, Microvias)? > > Thanks Sam > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rmora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 9:39 AM > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: .4 mm pitch bga's > > > Gino, > Wow, where will it end. > We use a .25mm pad with a .1mm hole and that's pushing it. But our application > is a high volume product. > What is the BGA pad size you are using? > Are you using stacked vias? > Are the BGA pads masked defined or etch defined. > These will all have an impact on the via pad, trace space numbers. > Are you under filling the BGA? > > For the very dense designs we use ALIVH technology in an 8 layer stack up. > This allows us to put a via in pad and route directly down to any layer. > > Ron > > At 10:06 AM 10/27/2006 -0500, you wrote: > > Everyone, > > What's your recommendation for microvia sizes, line and spacing for routing .4mm bga's? > > I saw a technotes using .065mm line and space between 0.2mm pad/0.1 drill micro via. Anyone using these in their designs? > > regards, > Gino > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. > > ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list go to http://www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----------------------------------------------------------