[ibis-macro] Re: Table Clarification BIRD Comments

  • From: "Bob Ross" <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <kwillis@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'IBIS-ATM'" <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:59:54 -0700

Hi All:

Attached are more details of a Table proposal that can cover all intended
cases in Version 5.0 and also support single and multi-row Tables for all
Reserved_Parameters and Model_Specific parameters cases by just
clarifying the existing rules.

Bob 

-----Original Message-----
From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Willis
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:00 AM
To: 'IBIS-ATM'
Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Table Clarification BIRD Comments

Hi all,

We are with Bob in allowing an exception for the single-row tables. This
keeps existing models working without issue, which has always been a key
principle for IBIS, and I think should be preserved here, and not so easily
discarded.

I spoke directly with the AMI developer at IBM on this topic. IBM agrees
with the stated positions of Bob, Cadence, and Sigrity in that the existing
working format for the single-row Tables should be allowed going forward,
and simply documented / clarified in the spec.

Thanks,
 
Ken Willis
Sigrity, Inc.
860-871-7070
kwillis@xxxxxxxxxxx
 

-----Original Message-----
From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Walter Katz
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:46 PM
To: bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'IBIS-ATM'
Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: Table Clarification BIRD Comments

All,

I have reviewed Bob's comments, and am enclosing a response with my
comments. I am in agreement with all of Bob's comments, except the
treatment of the first column in each row. With my proposal, the format of
single row tables and multi row tables are the same, and by treating the
first column of each row as a "parameter", then is satisfies all of the
DLL BNF rules.

The alternative is to treat single row tables differently than multi row
tables.  I will accept the decision the IBIS-ATM, my real goal here is to
not need to have context sensitive parsers in either the EDA tool, or
models.

Walter
 
-----Original Message-----
From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Ross
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:15 PM
To: 'IBIS-ATM'
Subject: [ibis-macro] Table Clarification BIRD Comments

All:

Per Arpad's request, attached are my comments on top and in the BIRD.

Bob

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