Kukal, Correct me if I misunderstood your comments on BIRD 121. To follow up on my last reply I brought the question up in one of the last ATM meetings and found out that the "Supporting_Files" AMI parameter can have file and/or directory entries. | "Supporting_Files" is an AMI parameter of Type String, Usage Info, Format List | that contains a list of the files the model requires in addition to the DLL or | shared object file. In the specified List, each String is the relative path | from the .ibs file directory to one supporting file or directory. | | Example: | | (Supporting_Files (Usage Info)(Type String) | (List "my_stuff_dir" "m1.s4p" "m2.s4p" "m3.s4p") | (Description "Additional files that support this model") | ) So this parameter may be used as a "search path" as well as "file pointer". Please let us know if you have more questions or comments on this topic. Thanks, Arpad ============================================================= From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:08 AM To: IBIS-ATM Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: BIRD121: New AMI params (Supporting_Files) in context of BIRD116 Kukal, Thanks for the clarification. My understanding of BIRD 121 is that this is the equivalent of the "search path" in HSPICE or similar tools. This is not where the files are instantiated. In light of that, we may need to discuss whether it is appropriate to include file names instead of just path names, but we didn't get to a detailed discussion on this BIRD yet. Thanks, Arpad ================================================================== From: Taranjit Kukal [mailto:kukal@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 8:20 AM To: Muranyi, Arpad; IBIS-ATM Subject: RE: [ibis-macro] Re: BIRD121: New AMI params (Supporting_Files) in context of BIRD116 Hi Arpad, What I meant is that the BIRD116 covers s-parameters as part of [External Model] and that is the right place-holder. Even if AMI code needs to work in conjunction with Spice files (or s-param files), then those files need to be either under [External Model] OR should be referred through model-parameter (Not reserved) in .ami file. The inclusion of s-parameters as part of AMI section (.ami file) with use of 'Supporting_Files' Reserved-keyword is not required. AMI should not hold anything other than ami-code related parameters. rgds ..kukal ________________________________ From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:41 PM To: IBIS-ATM Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: BIRD121: New AMI params (Supporting_Files) in context of BIRD116 Kukal, I would like you to clarify what you are saying here because it is not clear what you are referring to in your last sentence: "we do not need this anymore" Does this refer to BIRD 121 mentioned in the subject line, or are you talking about not needing BIRD 116? Thanks, Arpad =========================================================== From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Taranjit Kukal Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:06 AM To: IBIS-ATM Subject: [ibis-macro] BIRD121: New AMI params (Supporting_Files) in context of BIRD116 Hi, All supporting files (s-params or otherwise) should be scope of [External Model] - These s-param files do not have anything to do with AMI C-code. The fact that BIRD116 covers s-params as part of [External Model] and allows working of same in conjunction with AMI, we do not need this anymore. thoughts? rgds ..kukal Taranjit Kukal | Product Engineering Architect P: 91 120 3984000 www.cadence.com <http://www.cadence.com/>