[HFbeacons] Re: Greyline Beacons 5 December 2013
- From: Brandon J <bdjorda@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "hfbeacons@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <hfbeacons@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 19:40:05 -0600
Hi Bill. I am fascinated by 10 meter propagation but am still very low on the
learning curve. Can you or anyone else on the list recommend a good web site or
book that helps one identify what propagation mode they may be receiving?
Another one mentioned a bit is back scatter.
I've done a bit of 'googling' on 10 meter propagation, but not found anything
yet that really helps a novice determine the propagation mode of a signal they
are receiving.
My report of possible E skip last night regarding reception of AC0MO, I am now
pretty sure it was meteor scatter. Rapid fade up to an excellent signal and
then slightly less rapid fade out less than a minute later.
I have noticed some evenings that the band dies out at sunset, but other
evenings some signals are present into 0100 UT, tonight for instance. AC4DJ
(FL) and K5AB (TX) are audible here in W TN at 0130 UT after the band is
generally dead. Are these E skip?
73,
Brandon
> On Dec 5, 2013, at 7:13 PM, WJ5O <wj5o@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Joshua,
>
> They are terms used to describe which cloud layer reflects the signal....The
> E layer is ion charged clouds much lower in the atmosphere and will cause a
> reflected signal to be near the listener..... F layer reflections will cause
> the listener to be a greater distance from the beacon station. Sometimes
> multi hop Es will be considered F layer reflections. Note my mileage entries
> below and quite likely all those over 1500 miles from my location are F layer
> reflections.
>
> Questions?...Don't hesitate to ask.
>
> 73 Bill WJ5O
>
>
>> On 12/5/2013 5:21 PM, Joshua Inman wrote:
>> What are the e's and the f's? Illegal beacons?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 5:10 PM, WJ5O <wj5o@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Good Evening All,
>>>
>>> The December "E"'s appeared along with the usual "F"'s this
>>> bandscan.....WA2DVU first time in the log.
>>>
>>> 22:40 Z, 5 December 2013 I can hear 28 ten meter beacon signals into EM71as.
>>>
>>> 28.1895 LU2DT MAR DEL PLATA, ARGENTINA 8295 km 5154 miles
>>> 28.1935 LU2ERC ENSENADA BA, ARGENTINA 7967 km 4950 miles
>>> 28.197 LU5FB ROSARIO, ARGENTINA 7624 km 4737 miles
>>> 28.197 VE7MTY PITT MEADOWS, BC, CANADA 3605 km 2240 miles
>>> 28.199 LU1FHH EL TREBOL SF ARGENTINA 7550 km 4691 miles
>>> 28.2035 K6LLL MISSION VIEJO, CALIFORNIA 2959 km 1839 miles
>>> 28.2035 PY2WFG IPIRANGA, BRAZIL 5940 km 3691 miles
>>> 28.2052 N3NIA RIDGWAY, PENNSYLVANIA 1233 km 766 miles
>>> 28.2113 N6QIH DRAPER, UTAH 2510 km 1560 miles
>>> 28.216 K3FX NEPTUNE CITY, NEW JERSEY 1424 km 885 miles
>>>
>>> 28.2165 N7MA CATALDO, IDAHO 3113 km 1934 miles
>>> 28.227 KC6WGN LAS VEGAS, NEVADA 2715 km 1687 miles
>>> 28.2293 KA2LIM BIG FLATS, NEW YORK 1415 km 879 miles
>>> 28.236 W8YT MARTINSBURG, WEST VIRGINA 1112 km 691 miles
>>> 28.239 VA7PL CRYSTAL MOUNTAIN, BC CANADA 3407 km 2117 miles
>>> 28.2478 K6EMI FULLERTON, CALIFORNIA 2988 km 1856 miles
>>> 28.250 K6FRC/B2 SUTTERS MOUNTAIN, CALIFORNIA 3233 km 2009 miles
>>> 28.250 K7EK GRAHAM, WASHINGTON 3510 km 2181 miles
>>> 28.250 K8NDB YUMA, ARIZONA 2688 km 1670 miles
>>> 28.2573 WA2DVU CAPE MAY, NEW JERSEY 1292 km 803 miles
>>>
>>> 28.261 NJ3T SOMERSET, PENNSYLVANNA 1105 km 687 miles
>>> 28.2848 WA3IIA BLOOMSBURG, PENNSLYVANIA 1337 km 831 miles
>>> 28.287 WI6J BAKERSFIELD, CALIFORNIA 3067 km 1905 miles
>>> 28.290 N6UN SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA 2924 km 1817 miles
>>> 28.296 KA7BGR CENTRAL POINT, OREGON 3450 km 2144 miles
>>> 28.2978 WA3BM VALENCIA, PENNSYLVANIA 1131 km 703 miles
>>> 28.2985 K7FL BATTLE GROUND , WASHINGTON 3487 km 2167 miles
>>> 28.300 K6FRC TRACY, CALIFORNIA 3233 km 2009 miles
>>>
>>> 73 Bill WJ5O
>>> Southern Alabama
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