Thanks for the explanation. Makes perfect sense! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 5, 2013, at 7:13 PM, WJ5O <wj5o@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Joshua, > > They are terms used to describe which cloud layer reflects the signal....The > E layer is ion charged clouds much lower in the atmosphere and will cause a > reflected signal to be near the listener..... F layer reflections will cause > the listener to be a greater distance from the beacon station. Sometimes > multi hop Es will be considered F layer reflections. Note my mileage entries > below and quite likely all those over 1500 miles from my location are F layer > reflections. > > Questions?...Don't hesitate to ask. > > 73 Bill WJ5O > > >> On 12/5/2013 5:21 PM, Joshua Inman wrote: >> What are the e's and the f's? Illegal beacons? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 5, 2013, at 5:10 PM, WJ5O <wj5o@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Good Evening All, >>> >>> The December "E"'s appeared along with the usual "F"'s this >>> bandscan.....WA2DVU first time in the log. >>> >>> 22:40 Z, 5 December 2013 I can hear 28 ten meter beacon signals into EM71as. >>> >>> 28.1895 LU2DT MAR DEL PLATA, ARGENTINA 8295 km 5154 miles >>> 28.1935 LU2ERC ENSENADA BA, ARGENTINA 7967 km 4950 miles >>> 28.197 LU5FB ROSARIO, ARGENTINA 7624 km 4737 miles >>> 28.197 VE7MTY PITT MEADOWS, BC, CANADA 3605 km 2240 miles >>> 28.199 LU1FHH EL TREBOL SF ARGENTINA 7550 km 4691 miles >>> 28.2035 K6LLL MISSION VIEJO, CALIFORNIA 2959 km 1839 miles >>> 28.2035 PY2WFG IPIRANGA, BRAZIL 5940 km 3691 miles >>> 28.2052 N3NIA RIDGWAY, PENNSYLVANIA 1233 km 766 miles >>> 28.2113 N6QIH DRAPER, UTAH 2510 km 1560 miles >>> 28.216 K3FX NEPTUNE CITY, NEW JERSEY 1424 km 885 miles >>> >>> 28.2165 N7MA CATALDO, IDAHO 3113 km 1934 miles >>> 28.227 KC6WGN LAS VEGAS, NEVADA 2715 km 1687 miles >>> 28.2293 KA2LIM BIG FLATS, NEW YORK 1415 km 879 miles >>> 28.236 W8YT MARTINSBURG, WEST VIRGINA 1112 km 691 miles >>> 28.239 VA7PL CRYSTAL MOUNTAIN, BC CANADA 3407 km 2117 miles >>> 28.2478 K6EMI FULLERTON, CALIFORNIA 2988 km 1856 miles >>> 28.250 K6FRC/B2 SUTTERS MOUNTAIN, CALIFORNIA 3233 km 2009 miles >>> 28.250 K7EK GRAHAM, WASHINGTON 3510 km 2181 miles >>> 28.250 K8NDB YUMA, ARIZONA 2688 km 1670 miles >>> 28.2573 WA2DVU CAPE MAY, NEW JERSEY 1292 km 803 miles >>> >>> 28.261 NJ3T SOMERSET, PENNSYLVANNA 1105 km 687 miles >>> 28.2848 WA3IIA BLOOMSBURG, PENNSLYVANIA 1337 km 831 miles >>> 28.287 WI6J BAKERSFIELD, CALIFORNIA 3067 km 1905 miles >>> 28.290 N6UN SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA 2924 km 1817 miles >>> 28.296 KA7BGR CENTRAL POINT, OREGON 3450 km 2144 miles >>> 28.2978 WA3BM VALENCIA, PENNSYLVANIA 1131 km 703 miles >>> 28.2985 K7FL BATTLE GROUND , WASHINGTON 3487 km 2167 miles >>> 28.300 K6FRC TRACY, CALIFORNIA 3233 km 2009 miles >>> >>> 73 Bill WJ5O >>> Southern Alabama