Yeah I know that goes to the GE mailing list. please forward it, since I'm not on (and I've already too many mails to flush a day =)) I took the occasion today to ask Marco Nelissen about possible liblayout inclusion in OpenBeOS: mmu_man: we are currently discussing about layout managment... we would like to know what you'd think about letting us use liblayout in OpenBeOS mmu_man: that would include open-sourcing it mmu_man: it's not anyway for tomorrow, since we keep layout stuff for the next version, we want first to have something that works ;) marcone: interesting idea. Of course liblayout has many problems. It really needs to be overhauled completely.