This is an interesting philosophical point that I see brought up over and over again. Seems like now adays it's better to be mediocre rather than the best so you are like "everyone else". I see this happening in obos, too. The main thing I loved about beos is it said, damn the old ways, we are going to be the best. Now I see, this thing about aping MS, and trying to only do what "90% of home users" would want. 90% of home users don't know that obos exists. If you talked about it to them 90% of them wouldn't care, in fact 90% of them would think that you were in need of some help. The point is that 90% of the world is not your friend, they don't love you, and they are an insufficient reason for not being your best at all times. I don't hear Jordan saying, "yea, I missed that shot b/c 90% of people watching at home would have missed it, too." :) best, Fred Ollinger (follinge@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) CCN sysadmin