>other then the multi user debate how is OBeOS trying to be like any thing >other then R5? i'm not on any delevlopment team im on the Createive team, >and currently im working on icons, and personaly i'm trying to create a set >that is usable but not a copy of other things. i just dont see how were >writing to the norm? I think the idea of a BeOS-based theme is good, but I agree with you that OBOS's GUI should be sort of a next step (no pun intended). When R5 came out, the folder icons looked a little more contemporary. I actually just made my folders look like OSX, because they are more colorful and modern looking; not so paper-like (although I dislike a lot of the Mac icons). But the whole yellow tab thing is right-on. Some would argue that GUI is not all that important, but for a lot of people the look and feel of their environment makes a difference. BeOS seemed to caputure a lof of the vibrance and colorfulness of Macintosh, without going overboard on silly animations, and also still retaining a more concrete analytic feel to a lot of things. It truly has captured the best elements of all previous OS's. Long story short, I think you are wise to give OBOS it's own look and feel, and make original icons that carry on the general BeOS concept and maybe make it even a bit more modern and catchy. And if people don't like it, they can always change it with themes anyway. :) Good luck. Make it perty. Clay