Hi all! (thought I should say hi since this is my first post) I'm not a developer (well uhm... I am actually a VB, SQL, PHP and ASP developer, but that won't help you guys, right?) so, I hope noone will be offended by me posting here. :) I felt I had to leave a counterpost to this one. Since I practically work in/with windows all day I have come to use the keyboard more and more. Why? It's alot faster to keep your hands on your keyboard all the time. It is also better for my neck/shoulders/arms. Anyway... hot-keys and such are good (IMO) and is one of the few complaints I've got about BeOS. I would really be glad if there was somewhat extended keyboard-"support" (in lack of better words) in OBOS (R1 or later). Now... take my $0.02 and may the force be with you! -Sam Persson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregor Rosenauer" <rosenauer@xxxxxx> To: <openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:45 PM Subject: [openbeos] Re: Zoom and Resize > > Mac and BeOS are dead in the water without a mouse. Every tried to use either > > without a mouse? You can't. > Well that has historical reasons - Windows was DOS until NT, and a modern GUI was a revolution for PC-DOS-users. > So they carried on old legacy in form of keyboard-shortcuts for those poor ppl that did not yet "upgrade" to a mouse. > > BeOS and MacOS have the GUI incorporated, so there was no real need for controlling the entire GUI with keys only. > It has good reasons to use a mouse or similar input-device (even kiosks have a touchscreen or trackball), it's simplier, more intuitive, and less tiring. > > Personally I hate it that you still have that annoying icon-button on each Window, just to be able to reach the window-menu. > > I think it would be sufficient to offer shortcuts for Zoom/Hide, but the time spent on making everything key-able could be better spent on other things IMO. > > It would be cool to be able to control the mouse-cursor with Option+Cursor-Keys though, like it was possible on the Amiga:) > > Regards, > Gregor > -- > Gregor B. Rosenauer > Student of Computer Science and New Media Engineering > Vienna, Austria > > http://www.hugh.at.tf > > > >