[openbeos] Re: Haiku Vmware Build Environment
- From: "Karl vom Dorff" <karl@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: openbeos@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:03:46 -0400
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Andreas Färber <andreas.faerber@xxxxxx>
wrote:
>
> Am 15.04.2008 um 23:45 schrieb Ryan Leavengood:
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Andreas Färber <andreas.faerber@xxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > What's your point of this mailing list post? Remember, it's being sent
> > > to
> > > lots of people.
> > >
> >
> > So is your email, which I find kind of rude and I expect Karl will too.
> >
> > You were informed that you are in violation of the guidelines and that
> > > you
> > > need to make changes to comply with them if you want to continue to
> > > distribute your Haiku images.
> > >
> > > It's your responsability to comply with such licensing terms.
> > >
> > > You could be happy if someone wants to help you simplify the changes
> > > you'd
> > > need to make, but in no way can you take that as an argument for
> > > deliberately violating the rules now that you know!
> > >
> >
> > Karl is trying to do the right thing, but he is getting conflicting
> > views from we Haiku developers. Unfortunately we are individual people
> > and do not always agree on everything.
> >
> > I find it a bit disappointing that people are being so harsh about
> > this since Karl is just trying to facilitate people more easily
> > developing on Haiku. It is not like he is burning CDs and handing them
> > out or trying to sell them. Also I expect the people that visit
> > Haikuware.com are not much different than those visiting haiku-os.org,
> > so it is not like many people will download the image without knowing
> > what it is.
> >
> > But this is just my opinion.
> >
>
> My opinion is that this discussion which has been going on the last weeks
> is really tiring. For someone quite new to Haiku like me, it gives the
> impression that a War of the Websites has broken out, and that is certainly
> not good publicity for Haiku.
>
> The distro guidelines apply to everyone, so there's little point in
> arguing about their applicability. Those are not individual views, and
> nothing really contradicting regarding their applicability has lately been
> stated by the developers.
>
> On the other hand, arguing about how to technically comply with the
> guidelines on this list is totally fine, no doubt.
>
>
> Again in my opinion, it seems strange that someone saying he is not a
> developer tries to provide developers with a development download. As a
> developer desperately trying to get started with development on Haiku, I
> compare said 125 MB to the few KB or MB an incremental svn up takes in
> practice and consider that they're in VMware format only.
> But the real contradicting views here seem to be on whether or not to
> distribute a development image at this stage at all. In short that's the
> whole Alpha discussion. The Haiku developers have decided against that for
> now. As I understand it, the "Development" Optional Package is a large step
> towards that goal, and rather than just settling for and spreading this
> work-in-progress, some help with reviewing and improving that software would
> be good, to have the official Alpha finished sooner. For example, it
> recently turned out that the Perl port is not complete yet. And there is no
> Subversion optional package yet, which is even directly necessary for
> self-hosting Haiku. It's not that there's nothing left to do.
Haiku posts a subversion package at haiku-files.org, it was on the developer
image I made, and I checked out the entire source with it in Haiku. Although
it's not in the optional packages script, the version posted does work.
>
>
> I don't intend to be rude with this or the other post, just
> results-oriented. And I assume we all want Haiku to evolve nice and quickly,
> whatever views we might have on "the right thing" to do. Karl knows btw that
> I like his site in general.
>
> Andreas
>
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Karl vom Dorff
B.Sc (Hons) Biology, (German minor)
http://www.karlvd.com
http://www.clubloreley.org
http://www.haikuware.com
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