[gps-talkusers] Re: feeling free to wander
- From: Chris Grabowski <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:57:26 -0500
Hi,
The N82 only runs on service providers at&t or T-mobile here in the
states.
The N82 is a GSM based cell phone and will work with carriers over in
the UK.
The KNFB Reader is just software that gets installed on the phone.
Chris
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:50:02 -0500
tbrowngriffin@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Hi
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> From: Kim Lookingbill <seadolphink@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:47 pm
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: feeling free to wander
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> Hi: - No its really quite easy
> to use, and you can use the cell phone as just the use of the KNFB reader
> without being connected to a cell phone plan until a later date. However,
> when you do choose to use the cell phone along with the KNFB reader it is
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> On Behalf Of tbrowngriffin@xxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, February
> 21, 2009 6:38 PM
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> Subject:
> [gps-talkusers] Re: feeling free to wander
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> thanks for that, unfortunatley I have just replaced my phone for a nokia
> N95 8GB, so won't be able to change it again for at least 18months, sounds
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> fantastic bit of kit though, wonder what the uk price would be, maybe if I
> start saving now by upgrade time i could be lucky! I;m still getting to
> grips
> with a braillenote pk and gps!
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> Is the KNFB easy to use or does it take some getting used to?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kim Lookingbill
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> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:21 pm
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: feeling free to
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> Hi Tony: - The
> KNFB reader is a fabulous reading tool (Oh just forget who makes it), it
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> all print material very accessible to you. The original, which came
> out several years ago; my husband, who's very skeptical about new
> tech products, when we went to see the product demo said "remember we're
> just going to see the hottest new tech gadget; we're absolutely not going
> to buy one". . . but by the end of the evening when everyone was
> digging through the hostess freezer to see what it couldn't read, we were
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> =0 Aquite impressed, my husband even pulled out a old lottery ticket which
> the
> knfb reader had no trouble translating. . . well, we walked out of the demo
> with a purchase order, and haven't regretted it to this day. We now have
> a knfb mobile which runs on the "N82" nokia phone because the original
> knofb reader is no longer being upgraded. Its just as great, and
> much more portable being in a very slim cell phone. Matter-of-fact for
> Valentine's Day we went to the Embassy Suites Hotel and had a blas
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> reading every printed item in the suite which usally wasn't accessible to
> a visually impaired person without asking someone to read. For
> example there was a real small hang tag on the bathroom door knob which
> basically told you they practice being "green". . . this meant: use the
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> once and hang it up and the maids will leave it to be used again. . . if
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> wanted a new towel you needed to throw it on the floor in a pile. . . but
> without this you wouldn't know the hotel's preferences. It was
> especially cool when I was able to browse through the hotel's notebook of
> services on the desk and know exactly what we wanted to order
> off the dinner room service menu, instead of having to call and
> asking what do you have? Yes, it may seem expensive at first,
> but it'll be the best money you've ever have spent for your independence;
> especially if you want to read your mail, travel and wan t to know what
> everyone else is reading, or want to have access to print material you
> found impossible unless asking someone to read it to you. The KNFB
> reader will also read your paper money as well (if its US
> currency). We were so attached to our original KNFB reader
> that we decided to keep it instead of providing it as a trade-in for a
> better discount. Yes, the n82 is capable of running GPS systems,
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> haven't gotten that far yet. I'm still running my Sendero GPS from my
> braillenote MPower. I have the GPS WaveFinder on my cell phone but
> do not find it as reliable at least in our area.
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> On Behalf Of tbrowngriffin@xxxxxxx
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> Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:21 PM
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> Subject:
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> great story, what is a KNFB?
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> From: alice dampman
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> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: feeling free to
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> Hi,
> Mike,
> What a great story!
> Do you use the
> cell phone that the KNFB reader is on? What is the
> provider?
> Thanks.
> Alice
> alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx
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> Original Message ----- From: "Michael May" <MikeMay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> A "GPS-talkusers-freelists.org" <GPS-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:45 AM
> Subject: [gps-talkusers]
> feeling free to wander
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> >I have often espoused that the
> real value of GPS is not its ability
> > to provide a route to a
> destination but the fact that it allows you
> > to "get unlost."
> This means that you can comfortably become lost
> > because you
> have the tool to find your way back.
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> > I am
> reminded of this tremendous benefit when I am in a completely
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> unfamiliar situation20and wish to explore. To make the challenge
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> > greater, put yourself in another country where a
> different language is > spoken.
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> > I am in
> Barcelona Spain, staying in a hotel on a major avenue called
> >
> La Rambla. It is fun to stroll up and down but if you want to
> find
> > local food for reasonable prices, you need to explore
> away from La
> > Rambla. It only takes a few blocks before you
> leave the wide streets
> > and find yourself in narrow alleys. It
> feels like some sort of
> > Halloween Maize as you meander further
> and further into the heart of
> > the old
> city.
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> > Thank goodness the new high sensitivity
> GPS receivers pick up signals
> > in these narrow places. You do
> =2
> 0 have to pay attention to the data to
> > make sure the little
> streets, which are close to each other, don't
> > get misreported.
> By double checking the announcement of the street
> > you are on
> constantly, you can figure this out.
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> > It is
> amazing that these very small restaurants, shops and bars are
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> in the GPS database. The system reports them to you as you go
> along
> > including which side of the street they are on. Be ready
> to duck into
> > a doorway if a car comes along. There isn't much
> clearance on some of
> > these
> streets.
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> > Besides using my GPS information on my
> search=2 0for a lunch place, I
> > was sniffing and listening,
> occasionally ducking into a door only to
> > decide it didn't
> sound right, didn't have a good feel. Wonderfully,
> > smoking
> laws in Spain have gotten much stricter so you don't have to
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> worry about that as much as you did a few years
> ago.
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> > I heard a couple of British ladies
> mentioning that they were looking
> > for a certain restaurant and
> I offered to help them out. I got them
> > to the correct street
> and we found their restaurant. It was too loud
> > for me so I
> kept exploring and picked one called Quo Vadis. It is
> > that
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> last 20 to 50 feet to the destination that is difficult. I
> knew
> > I was close and I even knew which side of the street the
> restaurant
> > was on. I asked for sighted assistance to find the
> actual door. They
> > didn't see it at first but when I insisted
> that it was close by, they
> > kep t looking and finally found
> it.
> >
> > The waiter was pretty blown away when I used
> the KNFB Reader to read
> > the menu. I was trying to get him to
> read it to me but he kept asking
> > what I wanted and he was too
> busy to take the time to read me the
> > choices. There was an
> English and a Spanish section of the menu. If
> > there had been a
> WiFi connection, I could have used the KNFB Reader's
> > abi lity
> to translate but there wasn't and I was afraid of the
> > possible
> cost of using the Internet through my phone
> provider.
> >
> > When I was finished with a leisurely
> lunch, I set my hotel as my
> > destination and followed the
> pedestrian route created on my GPS to
> > take me back, quite
> easy. This was a far cry from the first time I
> > came to
> Barcelona in the 80s.
> > The cool thing is that you don't have to
> be a super traveler to enjoy
> > this kind of independence. It is
> the=2
> 0combination of tools, which
> > makes this all come
> together.
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> > Now I just have to wait for the late
> Spanish dinner hour tonight to
> > go out again for another
> adventure before heading home tomorrow.
> >
> >
> Mike
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