[gps-talkusers] Re: UK Roundabouts

  • From: Charles LaPierre <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:17:14 -0700

Hello Peter,

Thanks for the vote of confidence, I appreciate your comments.

You can tell if you have the patch installed when you go into the program and it says "Sendero GPS version 4.02"
If it only says Sendero GPS 4.0 then you need to download the free patch.

One thing to note is WayFinder has been doing vehicle navigating for years and has a very strong commercial business with sighted drivers, they are only now getting into the disability market for blind, so I would expect their vehicle directions to be outstanding. We will be looking how they handle roundabouts as well as other off-the-shelf products to keep things improving as we move forward.

Thanks again for your feedback it is really important to us that we keep this channel open for our users to express not only what we are doing right, but also ways we can continue to improve.

Cheers.
Charles.


At 06:05 AM 10/26/2007, you wrote:
Hi Charles, and All,

Firstly, I know I have version 4.02, but I don't know whether the patch has been applied as it was pre-installed, so how do I find out?

Secondly, I want to make it clearr that in every other respect I am finding the software absolutely fantastic. I am migrating from Trekker, which I've been using for years, and which still has a problem with roundabouts, but I have also been using Wayfinder on a mobile phone, which handles roundabouts perfectly iin my view, and that is based on helping drivers navigate for quite some time.

The solutions suggested so far, i.e. exploring the roundabout in advance, or driving around it while waiting for instructions, are simply unsatisfactory workarounds. The driver needs to know in advance which exit to take, and this is particularly true when there are two or three roundabouts only one or two hundred yards apart, which often happens.

If I don't have the patch installed, then I'll try it again with, and report back, but I am very happy that the issue is being helpfully discussed, and only want to see a truly excellent product kkeep its deserved place as best solution.

Best,

Peter

At 03:35 PM 10/25/07, you wrote:
>Hello Ian,
>
>I will let a couple of the Beta testers who tested the 4.02 patch which specifically was released to address this very issue respond to this as they have tested this in the UK.
>
>Thanks
>Charles
>
>At 06:34 AM 10/25/2007, you wrote:
>>Hi Ian, and All,
>>
>>As others have said, the Sendero GPS works brilliantly in a car, but there is one major problem with using it in the UK. It does not yet cope properly with roundabouts when giving route instructions, so if you are helping to navigate, you will get stuck at every roundabout. I'm copying this to the GPS-talkusers list just to keep the issue live. The developer has kindly said that it's being addressed, but I'm not entirely sure hhe is yet convinced of just how useless it is at the moment.
>>
>>Charles, if this seems harsh, then I'd happily make logs for you to show you how impossible it would be to give useful navigation to a driver in this country.
>>
>>All the best,
>>
>>Peter
>>
>>
>>At 08:52 PM 10/24/07, you wrote:
>>>On the subject of GPS, can anyone tell me whether the system offered as an optional extra to the BN can be used effectively in a car? I have a sighted driving wife and don't want us to shell out on a system for the car, which we'd might also use for foreign travel, if I could make the BN do the same job. Any opinions greatly appreciated.
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