[gps-talkusers] Re: Post codes and zip codes
- From: "Richard Myers" <dkmyers28@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 23:03:00 +0900
Hello, Angelo,
The Garmin map set is not designed to be used by blind people. I have tried
JAWS and HAL on the map set (US Roads and Recreation), with no results in
JAWS, and a little results in HAL. Perhaps if I had worked harder with HAL,
it might have worked a little better. I just did not have the time to do a
complete workup on it. I think the main problem was that I do not have
enough experience with either screen reader to know what I was doing.
I am going on vacation in a week or two, and may have time to do some more
work on the problem.
Cheers
Dick Myers
From: "Angelo Sonnesso" <asonnesso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Post codes and zip codes
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 04:52:15 -0500
Can the Garmin map set be used by a blind person?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Myers" <dkmyers28@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 6:49 AM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Post codes and zip codes
> Hello, Liam,
> Are you still here? I hope so. In Japan, where I live now, and in the
> US,
> where I have a second home, as far as I know, the post code does not
> identify single dwellings. Map Quest is a free service on the Internet
> with
> versatile expandable map sections of the US in great detail and a little
> less detail in the rest of the world. Map Quest will give you a post
> code,
> normally called "Zip plus 4". If you enter Map Quest with the number
> address and street and town or city, you get a pinpoint location of the
> address with all adjoining streets and some points of interest, like
parks
> and post offices.
>
> So far, that does not help GPS very much because GPS uses earth
> coordinates
> (latitude and longitude) to define locations. Garmin has a set of maps
> covering the entire US on a single CD. These maps also have street
names,
> towns, and the like, but they do not contain street address information
> for
> houses or buildings. You could use Map Quest to get the physical
location
> of the address, then the lat-lon coordinates of the same point for your
> GPS.
> Kind of clumsy, but it would work for trip planning.
>
> The reason I am describing this is the difference in price. The only
> price
> is for the Garmin map set, and I think it is about $67, you will have to
> check with Garmin on that. That is for the entire US. I have seen the
> map
> sets for the BN GPS for sale at the price of $250 per state. That is
> $12,500 for the entire US, including Alaska and Hawaii. A little
> difference
> in price, one affordable, one not, at least on my budget.
>
> Now, what in the world is an "embuggerance"? You gotta explain that.
>
> Dick Myers
>
>
>
> From: "liam" <liam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Post codes and zip codes
> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:04:40 -0000
>
> Richard,
>
> I understand that in the UK we might use post codes more than in the
> states. A post code in the UK will identify a house rather than just a
> general area. For us the use of a post code saves a lot of keyboard
> work. It's the norm to be able to search on a post code for both PDA
> based systems and car based systems.
>
> I don't understand your comment below about map quest. I don't want to
> look up a postal code I want to be able to jump to the address
> associated with that code.
>
> I'm hoping that you are not suggesting that systems should be set up to
> make the life of programmer's easier?
>
> I take Mike's point that it would need some restructuring of the data
> set or the indexes for referencing the data. I suspect what we have
> here though is a cultural point that in the UK we use post codes a lot
> and see the lack of them as a genuine embuggerance.
>
> - Liam
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Myers
> Sent: 06 January 2005 02:02
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Post codes and zip codes
>
>
> Looking at this from a GPS programmer's point of view, post codes (zip
> codes) do not help ther GPS system to find a location. If you want Zip
> codes, go to MapQuest.
>
> From: "liam" <liam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Post codes and zip codes
> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 09:11:33 -0000
>
> Mike,
>
> This is where I show my lack of world knowledge.
>
> Isn't a post code the same as a zip code? Or can the zip code be
> calculated in some way? I'm puzzled as to why the use of post codes
> should be so difficult given that it appears to be standard, for the
> systems being sold in the UK at at the moment. Is the post code not
> held within the map data set?
>
> Regards - Liam
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