[gps-talkusers] 2 maps loaded?

  • From: "Tina B." <tinabir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:57:31 -0700

i was trying to do a search for a specific restaurant and the only thing i know is the name, but the gps is saying data misallignment and gave me some kind of exceptiojn command error, so, i'm assuming somnething's gone wrong, how do i fix it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <raul@xxxxxxxxxxx> 

To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 6:17 AM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: TeleAtlas Woes
Hi. I totally agree with you on this, but the nice thing is that for those who do know a zip code of let us say, an area in which they live, but an area in which the incorrect city is shown, then it would help us out quite a bit.
Earlier I wanted to pull up a co-worker's address with SenseNav and could not do so because although eh lives in Fort Wayne, his address is not located in Fort Wayne according to Tele Atlas. So, because I know the zip code he is in, I could have used that feature to at least get closer. Sure, fixing the city information with better map accuracy would be nice, however the zip code would at least make it so that even if you have wrong map data, you can get past that.
In your situation where you might want to pull up an area of a city where you don't know much, here is what I do. 

1. Address search. on Voice Sense it's space-s.

2. Map name. I type il for Illinois.

3. City, I type Chicago.

4. Address, I press space for no address.
5. Street name. I type main, or broadway, or 1, 99% of all cities are going to have a main street, broadway, or a street beginning with 1 as in 1st avenue.
This at least places me somewhere in the city. Now I can do a search for a POI with an address which might be located in the city, but the map might not be showing the actual city name. Chances are, there is going to be a commercial POI in that area so if you search for the street name of where you want to go, you might get lucky and it will work. Sure, this is a long shot sometimes and we should not have to do it, but right now it's what needs to be done, and it's not that bad once you get used to it. 

Hope this helps.

alice dampman said the following on 7/20/2008 5:23 AM:
The only problem with the zip code solution is that one often does not know the zip code of a given area or town. I don't even know all the zip codes in my own city, let alone the surrounding areas. How on earth would I know the zip code of somewhere near Chicago or somewhere else I might be visiting? I'd be much more likely to know the name of the area, so my vote goes toward fixing these nomenclature problems as they come up and are identified and not requiring the gps user to know a bunch of zip codes. 
Alice
alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve" <drum67-72@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 7:42 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: TeleAtlas Woes



Charles,
I'll wait to see, as they say the proof is in the pudding. Two years ago, I complained to them by submitting a form and so far the area name for me is 
still unchanged.
In the meantime, one thing that would alleviate this problem is an option to enter a zip code instead of a city name/State in the address search. I'd really like you to take a look at my area of Michigan, where TeleAtlas insists on subdividing areas into things which either don't exist, or it uses several 
subdivision names for townships.
If you do, look at the west side of Lansing, the capitol city. As you travel outside the city limits, say going west on 3000 W. Saginaw, you come to my area which TeleAtlas inanely insists is Edgemont, which is not a politically recognized village, township, or anything and I suspect the Postal Service doesn't even recognize that as a legit name. I live in Lansing Township, 
which surrounds the City of Lansing on three sides; TeleAtlas correctly
identifies it as Lansing Area on the east side and north side, but not on the west side. There is a Edgemont subdeivision much like realtors identify areas of a town that is called Edgemont, but not a city. Then, as you go further west, you enter Delta Township in Eaton County. TeleAtlas recognizes part of this township, but another part of it is referred to as Waverly, which again is undefined as a jurisdiction although the school district which runs through my area as well as all of Delta Township is the Waverly Community Schools. But, there again, there is no village or city of Waverly. All of these areas 
lie in the 48917 zip code.
I could site other numerous areas where TeleAtlas comes up with township names that seasoned drivers have never heard of. Since these are non-incorporated 
areas, the zip code would be much easier to search for.  I suspect that
TeleAtlas provides better international mapping, but it certainly falls short here in the States and is leaving a bitter taste in many of our mouthes who 
have to deal with its idiosyncracies and so far a lack of a decent
work-around.

Steve
Lansing, Mi

Lat 42.44.58.3140 N 84.35.48.0598 W
----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles LaPierre" <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:46 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Nonexistent Address


Hi Steve,
You may jump for joy if we switched from TeleAtlas to NavTeq but
others would then have worse map accuracy and scream bloody
murder.  No solution is best.

I can tell you this, Sendero will be working closer with TeleAtlas to
help improve their map quality, and now with the new deal between
TomTom and TeleAtlas, TeleAtlas will be receiving quality control
updates from TomTom users who opt-in to TomTom's MapShare features
which helps monitor real-time road conditions and sends back this
information to Tom-Tom and ultimately TeleAtlas.

To read more about TomTom's mapshare program you can follow this link.
http://www.clubtomtom.com/general/mapshare-faq/

Thanks
Charles

At 03:33 PM 7/19/2008, you wrote:
Due to vagaries in TeleAtlas's inane map city designator system, one of the unfortunate consequences of the Sendero GPS implementation, in my opinion, 
your destination address may be in what they consider a different
city.  Where
I am, they list me in a "city" which is not a politically defined
jurisdiction
and hasn't been for over thirty years.

I would jump for joy if they ever converted to NavTech, which the
Trekker uses
and it doesn't have this problem.
The only thing I can suggest is to try to select an address in the real city, virtually navigate to your destination, and hit the letter C to see what 
TeleAtlas think your city is.

Steve
Lansing Township, Michigan
In TeleAtlas's map, Edgemont Park, Michigan.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlene Elder" <1ladychar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:24 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Nonexistent Address
When trying to set an address from my friend's house, I was able to specify the city and number, but when I tried to enter the street name, it found no matching streets. The name is North River View Road. I tried making River 
View two words, dropping the North designation, but it never found the
street.I then picked another address in a close-by city and it found it 
just fine in virtual mode.   Why would this happen?
Charlene Elder


Charles M. La Pierre
CTO Sendero Group
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