I am happy to spend some time in seeking God's creational truth but at the end of time, all will be revealed. Jack When you have truth Jack, its not about waiting till all is revealed and almost all go to Hell, its about warning as many as possible. Science of cosmology is a way in to minds. Philip And a way out for many it seems... ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Lewis To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Response to Geocentric 2-pager email Dear Neville, It's OK using whatever observations or measurements we like to try and figure out how God created everything, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter if we cannot find an answer or a model (cosmic that is) that explains it. However I do not put evolution in that category, that one is most certainly not up for negotiation - science dictates so! Evolution is an affront to God's creation and human intelligence and is responsible for producing a society that feels it has no purpose or morality. We have plenty of examples to attack of wrong thinking, bad science, poor assumptions, accommodations etc.that tries to provide a materialistic explanation for everything. We may not necessarily be able to prove everything we would like but we can take comfort in revealing many faulty MS science arguments, thus showing that MS science is as much faith based as us believers in a Creator. Arguments that bear no fruit are futile and a waste of precious time. The world is a very needy place and deserves our attention more than fruitless arguments. I am happy to spend some time in seeking God's creational truth but at the end of time, all will be revealed. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Neville Jones To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Response to Geocentric 2-pager email Bernie, This is a fine response. What truth really is, God only knows. And I am beginning to think that this whole geocentric/heliocentric/acentric problem is a masterful piece of deception to keep people like us occupied and away from the important issues all around us. Models constructed by someone who actually knows how the universe operates and has turned our perception of it inside out, if you like. I find myself warming to the concave earth possibility that Steven is promoting!! Neville www.GeocentricUniverse.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.8/1154 - Release Date: 27/11/2007 11:40 AM