Dear Philip, That's what I meant by my last paragraph highlighted in red about living in a needy world. Do you anyone who became a believer by being persuaded by scientific argument? It takes a takes a belief in God first then all becomes clearer, through scripture plus some scientific argument for those who need it, just who God is. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: philip madsen To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:22 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Response to Geocentric 2-pager email Jack When you have truth Jack, its not about waiting till all is revealed and almost all go to Hell, its about warning as many as possible. Science of cosmology is a way in to minds. Philip And a way out for many it seems... ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Lewis To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Response to Geocentric 2-pager email The world is a very needy place and deserves our attention more than fruitless arguments. I am happy to spend some time in seeking God's creational truth but at the end of time, all will be revealed. Jack