[geocentrism] Re: Pre-Flood rain

  • From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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  • Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:36:06 -0700 (PDT)

Phil,


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From: philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism list <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 5:10:59 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Pre-Flood rain


not oxygen rarefied on the contrary oxygen richer..just as today lower 
altitudes have higher oxygen content then higher ones..on a smaller earth the 
oxygen content would be richer and this is bought out in that info i gave you 
as well..
You miss read me.. After rhe expansion, given the volume of air o2 is the same, 
then the atmospheric oxygen would be rarer (at lower pressure). Reverse the 
action and you will see what I mean. If todays pressure is normal, then back 
then the atmosphere's depth/height, would be much much more, and the pressure 
accordingly. 
Yes there would be a increase in the oxygen, density and atmospheric presure 
but that is  not a problem, in fact work on barometric chabers show significant 
increase in lifes [panes and such as long as the preasure decrease was not too 
rapid say over the course of a year or more..humans can withsand many times the 
current atmospheric pressure as long as the have time to decompress (a 
controlled decrease in pressure over a significant amount of time) but even 
then it only takes  hours to go from a 4.5x current atmospheric pressure back 
to "normal"..the only issue this raises is wht the atmospheric presure would 
have been with a earth 1/3 current size and what the min safe expansion rate to 
allow for this adjustment/ decompresion/ change to a less dense atmospheric 
condition.....over the course of a year or more that would not pose problems 
for humans or animals......... 

I'm not confident of your elevator ride in an ark with all those earth change 
tidal wave creating quakes going on below..  ..Tidal waves due to quakes and 
such typicaly pass through the open ocean wihtout notice to anyone it is only 
along the beaches that they become noticable.(Rouge waves excluded) 
however,.even with Rouge waves...as long as the medium (earth) is expanding 
waves would not compress they would decompress...... tidal waves are tidal 
waves cause they compress but in a expanding earth the effect would be just the 
opisite..... on a expanding earth would streach the waves inhibiting 
compression..as well as the fact that as long as the water covered the whole or 
significant portions of the earth tidal waves would be unlikly to form in the 
first place......why?..even in the deep ocean tidal waves are far less common 
to observe since they have little to compress against..


  Why do we have to use a japanese word we cannot spell to talk about a tidal 
wave.. Salami! 
growl.. 
Im only following the evidence scientific and scriptural based on LOE
Low Earth Orbit???? 

that would be "LEO" NOT "LOE"  :)
Logic, Observation, Experiance.
Phil. 
 Allen
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From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:22 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Pre-Flood rain





----- Original Message ----
From: philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 3:07:33 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Pre-Flood rain


Allen, this time I admit that what you offer is intrigueing. But still some 
important unanswered questions. When you say the world doubles in size, do you 
mean like a balloon, becoming more gaseous (vapor) below, or are you claiming 
increased mass..  an important distinction, and if the latter, you are on 
serious doubtful science. 
 
no meaningfull increase in mass...what caused the expansion? ..( a natural 
explination) i dont know excpet perhaps all that water and water vapor in the 
rocks ..popcorned..?? but no increase in MASS!..more like a popcorn Adam's 
akins it to a geode but i say that is too slow for the rate of expansion would 
have to account for the waters receding even if it took years after the flood 
to fully accomplish todays geology..anyway something akin to slow popcorn 
effect ............once the pressure threshold had be reached the initial 
rupture would/could have been only as slow or fast as needed to produce the 
nessisary water ................the ride in the Ark would have not have been 
any more noticeable then a ride on a elevator over the course of the expansion 
even if (most perhaps but not all.. i doubt it) all the expansion took place 
over that one year of the flood...
 
 
Next if it is the former, then gravity as a value would not be altered a great 
deal. 
 
Gravity as a vibration would be affected and streagnthed grate deal based on 
size not  just mass ...just like larger sand particles can attract more on the 
sound board then smaller ones ..or the surface tension of large vessles in 
water is stronger then the surface tension on smaller objects..... smaller 
objects will colect together around a larger objects in water just as in space 
the astronots on the way to the moon...uhmmm noticed that the smaller peices of 
debree stayed with them all the way to the moon now regarudless of what the 
cause is the effect is the same net effect........ this is one of the suporting 
evidences i think for a  Aetheral vibrational model of gravity although there 
are other independent evidences as welll..........
 
I grant the atmospheric gases if not increased in quantity save more water 
vapor,  having a higher altitude configuration and thus a lower density, (it 
has to spread over a much larger volume)  would be further from the magnetic 
entensity of the core, and thus more affected by cosmic rays as you say. It 
seems that the importance of the solar winds effect on cosmic rays and cloud 
formation is an important plank against man made climate change, and an 
important part of the rain drought cycle. But this occurs even today, without 
the need for any ballooning of the planet.  i dont follow.....? on a smaller 
earth with a denser mag field the cloud cover we see today would/ could not 
exist based on the mechanics what we observed today.....no clouds no rain....no 
rain no rainbow in the sky...regardless of the atmosphereic volume.......
 
Also such ballooning effects the humidity and air pressures, amount of 
saturated water vapor, all of which would  make for an enlarged volumetric 
change in the water cycle without actually changing principles involved. Not to 
forget about the problems of breathing for animals in a much more oxygen 
rareafied atmosphere. 
not oxygen rarefied on the contrary oxygen richer..just as today lower 
altitudes have higher oxygen content then higher ones..on a smaller earth the 
oxygen content would be richer and this is bought out in that info i gave you 
as well..
 
Why do you want to complicate things which were once so simple? I thought that 
was my job here. 
 Im only following the evidence scientific and scriptural based on LOE
Philip. 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Martin G. Selbrede 
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:24 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Pre-Flood rain




On Oct 2, 2007, at 4:13 PM, allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:


You are away on one of your rants again.
If you say so....:)


You go, Allen!



Martin




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