not oxygen rarefied on the contrary oxygen richer..just as today lower altitudes have higher oxygen content then higher ones..on a smaller earth the oxygen content would be richer and this is bought out in that info i gave you as well.. You miss read me.. After rhe expansion, given the volume of air o2 is the same, then the atmospheric oxygen would be rarer (at lower pressure). Reverse the action and you will see what I mean. If todays pressure is normal, then back then the atmosphere's depth/height, would be much much more, and the pressure accordingly. I'm not confident of your elevator ride in an ark with all those earth change tidal wave creating quakes going on below.. Why do we have to use a japanese word we cannot spell to talk about a tidal wave.. Salami! growl.. Im only following the evidence scientific and scriptural based on LOE Low Earth Orbit???? Phil. ----- Original Message ----- From: allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Pre-Flood rain ----- Original Message ---- From: philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 3:07:33 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Pre-Flood rain Allen, this time I admit that what you offer is intrigueing. But still some important unanswered questions. When you say the world doubles in size, do you mean like a balloon, becoming more gaseous (vapor) below, or are you claiming increased mass.. an important distinction, and if the latter, you are on serious doubtful science. no meaningfull increase in mass...what caused the expansion? ..( a natural explination) i dont know excpet perhaps all that water and water vapor in the rocks ..popcorned..?? but no increase in MASS!..more like a popcorn Adam's akins it to a geode but i say that is too slow for the rate of expansion would have to account for the waters receding even if it took years after the flood to fully accomplish todays geology..anyway something akin to slow popcorn effect ............once the pressure threshold had be reached the initial rupture would/could have been only as slow or fast as needed to produce the nessisary water ................the ride in the Ark would have not have been any more noticeable then a ride on a elevator over the course of the expansion even if (most perhaps but not all.. i doubt it) all the expansion took place over that one year of the flood... Next if it is the former, then gravity as a value would not be altered a great deal. Gravity as a vibration would be affected and streagnthed grate deal based on size not just mass ...just like larger sand particles can attract more on the sound board then smaller ones ..or the surface tension of large vessles in water is stronger then the surface tension on smaller objects..... smaller objects will colect together around a larger objects in water just as in space the astronots on the way to the moon...uhmmm noticed that the smaller peices of debree stayed with them all the way to the moon now regarudless of what the cause is the effect is the same net effect........ this is one of the suporting evidences i think for a Aetheral vibrational model of gravity although there are other independent evidences as welll.......... I grant the atmospheric gases if not increased in quantity save more water vapor, having a higher altitude configuration and thus a lower density, (it has to spread over a much larger volume) would be further from the magnetic entensity of the core, and thus more affected by cosmic rays as you say. It seems that the importance of the solar winds effect on cosmic rays and cloud formation is an important plank against man made climate change, and an important part of the rain drought cycle. But this occurs even today, without the need for any ballooning of the planet. i dont follow.....? on a smaller earth with a denser mag field the cloud cover we see today would/ could not exist based on the mechanics what we observed today.....no clouds no rain....no rain no rainbow in the sky...regardless of the atmosphereic volume....... Also such ballooning effects the humidity and air pressures, amount of saturated water vapor, all of which would make for an enlarged volumetric change in the water cycle without actually changing principles involved. Not to forget about the problems of breathing for animals in a much more oxygen rareafied atmosphere. not oxygen rarefied on the contrary oxygen richer..just as today lower altitudes have higher oxygen content then higher ones..on a smaller earth the oxygen content would be richer and this is bought out in that info i gave you as well.. Why do you want to complicate things which were once so simple? I thought that was my job here. Im only following the evidence scientific and scriptural based on LOE Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin G. Selbrede To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:24 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Pre-Flood rain On Oct 2, 2007, at 4:13 PM, allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: You are away on one of your rants again. If you say so....:) You go, Allen! Martin No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 2/10/2007 6:43 PM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 2/10/2007 6:43 PM