[geocentrism] Re: Photographic images
- From: "Robert Bennett" <robert.bennett@xxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 20:42:31 -0500
Dr. Jones,
1. Why doesn't the "graven" modifier of image apply as well to "likeness"
and the following?
2. Does the KGB offer any help on this passage?
3. Douay_Rheims translates "graven image" as "graven thing", so the
commandment isn't about pictures specifically.
4. DR also thoughtfully provides a clarifying comment for Exo 20:4, with
lots of supporting verses.
"A graven thing, nor the likeness of any thing"... All such images, or
likenesses, are forbidden by this commandment, as are made to be adored and
served; according to that which immediately follows, thou shalt not adore
them, nor serve them. That is, all such as are designed for idols or
image-gods, or are worshipped with divine honour. But otherwise images,
pictures, or representations, even in the house of God, and in the very
sanctuary so far from being forbidden, are expressly authorized by the word
of God. See Ex. 25. 15, and etc.; chap. 38. 7; Num. 21. 8, 9; 1 Chron. or
Paralip. 28. 18, 19; 2 Chron. or Paralip. 3. 10.
See what good things you miss out on! It's like they knew you might be
confused, as the iconoclasts were ....
Oh, I've no time
to rhyme.
Pax Christi,
Robert
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>
>
> Robert,
>
> I'm relieved you said, "mindset," rather than, "mind." Hey, what
> happened to our poetry competition?
>
> Money? I did not produce it, did not take the photograph or paint
> the image, and I do not store it up and hoard it. On the
> contrary, I am forever giving it back to Caesar.
>
> Graven? Yes, I know the meaning of "graven," but the Scriptures I
> quoted from the KJV Bible do not say just, "graven image." They
> add: "or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or
> that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath
> the earth." And, as I think I did mention, a photographic image
> is certainly a "likeness."
>
> Yours in Christ,
>
> Neville.
>
> Robert Bennett <robert.bennett@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dr. Jones,
>
> An unusual mindset, as usual.
>
> Does your local money contain any imagery of royalty (Mary, Queen
> of Scots,
> perhaps?)?
> Assume you forbear using any paper or specie containing such idolatry?
> Man cannot serve two masters - it must be God or Mammon.
>
> Seriously, does the key word "graven" has no special significance?
> Three dictionary definitions are given for "graven":
>
> An idol or fetish carved in wood or stone.
>
> a material effigy that is worshipped as a god; "money was his god" [syn:
> idol, god]
>
> Deut. 27:15; Ps. 97:7 (Heb. pesel), refers to the household gods of
> idolaters.
> "Every nation and city had its own gods...Yet every family had
> its separate
> household or tutelary god."
>
>
> BTW: Is this why you chose a forum where you can't post pics? (8^)>
>
> Pax Christi,
>
> Robert
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