Though it was me who posted the original link, Iam somewhat open minded until I see more evidence one way or the other, which is why I sent it here in the hope you clever guys can help. I wonder though, If the failure of the British Beagle mission to Mars failed because they actually tried to send it there? Maybe they would have ben more successfull sending it to Portland Quarry with a red filter? Pete :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Jones To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:49 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Odd happenings on (Mars?). Regner Trampedach wrote: Steven, Anybody can play games with photos. The NASA pictures from Mars, are of much higher quality than your example. Hi there, before I answer your questions, check out these high quality photos from NASA: http://www.geocentricuniverse.com/page37.htm Then move on to the superb effort by NA'SSA: http://www.geocentricuniverse.com/page45.htm I think you'll agree, it's a deceiving hoax. Steven. They could of course still be faked, but it take malicious intent. ESA's Mars Express returns photos that look very similar to The ones from the various NASA missions. If NASA is conspiring against the people of Earth, so must ESA. Can you please tell me why they would do that? And can you please tell me how thousands of people from all over the world, of all kinds of religious and political convictions (scientists working on the Mars missions), would be able to keep such a conspiracy secret for the rest of the world? - for several decades! I am sure the people implicated in Watergate were not interested at all in publicizing it. Only a handful of people were implicated, and yet the secret was out in no time. Regner Steven Jones wrote: OFFICIAL: I know that we at NA'SSA have been silent for a while, but not to disapoint I have attached the very latest image that has come back from Io. Your all very privileged to see this picture, we are now using the HD cam which was originally out of action due to a firmware problem that was resolved only the other night with a cup-of-tea. :-) Our rover has been there since last August, but this is the first time we've encountered such ferocious climatic conditions. A dust storm almost made it impossible for successful signal transmission, but here is a low-def version: One can see the interference patterns, but nevertheless, it's a beautiful site. Huge ice-fields in the distance, believed to contain many varied times of unknown extra-terrestrial specimens that can survive the cold not known on Earth. Scale is hard to perceive with this picture, but each ice-field is probably about the size-of-wales, as this is an unnaturally high vantage point. The rocks appear green, but we've not been able to calibrate the cam yet, (part of the firmware problem). Anyhow, a sign-out from me, this was an official news broadcast, don't believe the speculation about the lack of our activities, we are still very active in the field of space exploration. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smiles. Real picture below: Some rural Scottish low-hills I took with a cheap digital camara. NASA are not the only ones who can play games with photos. :-) Steven. PETER CHARLTON wrote: http://www.rense.com/general80/sunmr.htm