You are spot on Jack, but I must say your blunt method will not make it easy for the blind to see.. These things need gradual education for those who genuinely seek truth.. or put in a theological way, have the grace of God to seek truth. Those in denial will never see, no matter which way, I spose. I liked the way McCanney put it, and he doesn't have any God , yet he sees most of it... "... who do you owe this to ??? i have always asked ... who is the joker that claims to have soooooo much money that he can lend it to all the countries and citizens of the world ... and then claim you owe him interest .." Yes, just who is this joker? Of course Mccanney knows its only pretend money.. entries in a ledger, in a computer today, put there by private banks. (see fractional reserve banking.) Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Lewis To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 6:35 PM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Odd happenings on (Mars?). Dear Regner, Malicious intent is what it is ALL about. What about the 'Manhattan Project'? What about the 'Concentration Camps' set up all over America? What about who is controlling the world's finances? All it takes is simple official denial and media control. Do you believe that the 9/11 Twin Towers and WTC7 collapsed in the way it has been officially declared? Jack Regner Trampedach wrote: Steven, Anybody can play games with photos. The NASA pictures from Mars, are of much higher quality than your example. They could of course still be faked, but it take malicious intent. ESA's Mars Express returns photos that look very similar to The ones from the various NASA missions. If NASA is conspiring against the people of Earth, so must ESA. Can you please tell me why they would do that? And can you please tell me how thousands of people from all over the world, of all kinds of religious and political convictions (scientists working on the Mars missions), would be able to keep such a conspiracy secret for the rest of the world? - for several decades! I am sure the people implicated in Watergate were not interested at all in publicizing it. Only a handful of people were implicated, and yet the secret was out in no time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 23/01/2008 5:47 PM