Gentlemen, We are still no further forward regarding the claims of NASA. The whole Apollo programme issue boils down to two things: 1. Do you accept that if the stars move, a spaceship cannot navigate by them? 2. Do you accept that the Moon goes E->W in a geostatic (non-rotating World) system? We need to reach a concensus on these points, otherwise you and I are wasting our time. Please, therefore, address them. Neville. --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!