However, does not the local nature of the claimed sighting at Fatima contradict the premise that the Sun actually moved in the heavens? Neville. I am sure that Robert with myself agrees with you. Robert did say it was a purely local phenomena. Though it did extend to a 50 mile radius, and was observed by boats out to sea. That is why we call it a prodigie. That it was physical and powerful is as evidenced in the transformation made to the local environment and weather. No one claimed any more than that the sun appeared to move and fall , and with great realism with intense heat for those in the area. This inforces the true miracle nature of it, wouldn't you say. It was fortold months in advance that it would happen at Fatima, on that specific day hence the large turnup, which was increasing every month. There were minor unexplainable phenomena on each occasion, and even on the 13th of Sept, the month prior to the big day, about 50,000 people were in attendance from all over Portugal and further. I tend to accept that Joshuas event was world wide, nothing is impossible to God, and is why I said that in Power alone, Fatima was only surpassed by the Biblical stopping of the heavens for a day.. For some reason which I cannot understand, (who can understand the mind of God) on the previous month the children were told that because of the worlds and the churches negative reaction in regard to the events leading up to Fatima, and in particular the persecution of the children, and perhaps the use of the army to break up the crowds by force, the grandeur and spectacle of the miracle would be reduced from what would have been presented. My reasoning would have been to do the opposite, which is why I am always argueing with Him. However it was impressive enough.. Keep in mind, that whilst the public were getting their fear of Hell and the end of the world demo from the Apocalypse 12, the children were presented with an entirely different tableau in the sky. Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Neville Jones To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:36 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Joshua's Long Day Robert, Gerardus Bouw, in his book "Geocentricity," makes a case for Joshua's long day being observed across the entire World, as indeed it would be if the Sun and Moon did actually stop moving for "almost a whole day." However, does not the local nature of the claimed sighting at Fatima contradict the premise that the Sun actually moved in the heavens? Neville. Robert Bennett <robert.bennett@xxxxxxx> wrote: ... It should be noted that the solar miracle was local to Portugal. Like Joshua's long day, its motion was demontrated to be dependent on the Father: "My Father sends the Sun to shine on the just and the unjust". As there were many secular unbelievers who were witnesses , it should be of special interest to ALL geocentrists ... Robert ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.6.0/775 - Release Date: 24/04/2007 5:43 PM