[geocentrism] Re: Grew
- From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 08:12:51 -0700 (PDT)
"pseudo Mumbo Jumbo"!?... What in the world are you talking about? Harmonics
is a well established and not much disputed science MS or otherwise ....As for
H2O vibrations that bit is not part of the science of harmonics. That is part
of the various branches of sciencetology and modernistic ngostisic religious
movements such as "The secret"....... How did you bring that up and what does
that have to do with anything I mentioned?
philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
vibrational harmonic effects themselvs between masses, (not just the
difstance between the center of masses)....ref the sound board or diferent size
rocks in a vibrating jar ? We could call it Aetheral Vibrational
Gravitational Model AVGM..anyone... or maybe FVGM?..
That is pseudo scientific mumbo jumbo.. some people even talk about the
harmonic vibration in H20 when trying to electrolyse it for free energy.. Are
you into that stuff?
Philip.
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen Daves
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:01 PM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Grew
No, in New/Ein gravity, shape is only relevant for calculating the center of
mass not the strength/rate of gravity itself between masses (save the slight
difference due to shape from that center)??. Where shape and size/volume is
most definitely directly a major factor in the strength/rate/type of
vibrational harmonic effects themselvs between masses, (not just the difstance
between the center of masses)....ref the sound board or diferent size rocks in
a vibrating jar
? We could call it Aetheral Vibrational Gravitational Model AVGM..anyone...
or maybe FVGM?.. Firmament Vibrational Gravitational Model for us Bible
folk..? :)
philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Allen the
Newtonian/Einsteinian gravity is calculated upon the centre of gravity, which
does and has to take into consideration those factors of shape volume etc. ..
or so I believed.
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen Daves
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:50 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Grew
In Newtonian/Einsteinian gravity the strength or pull of gravity is based
solely on the mass of the object where I would argue for VG theory ... In VG
theory gravity is a function of the mass as well as shape/ volume of the
object(s) in question like the sand on the sound boards shape/volume is just as
important as mass/density.... if the earth were 1/3 the size it is now the
gravitational effects would not be that much different since the relative
distance to the center of mass would be nearly the same when accounting for the
increase in density that a earth 1/3 the size would have. Although water does
not compress generally, the density of tap water is less than the density of
sea water, the density of the earths crustal core with a hydration of say .007%
would be far more dense then the water itself. In this way if the earth
stretched due to a sudden catastrophic release of say ~1/7 of that water
(popcorn effect) the density would decrease while the volume would
increase this would account for the apparent increase in gravity
(http://www.nealadams.com/EarthProject/antipangea.html) although the total mass
of the earth would have stayed the same. Floating on the flood waters the
effects for Noah would be nothing more then a ride on a conventional elevator.
It has been calculated that the heat distribution of rain water itself is not
sufficient for the task as well as the fact that scripture go to a lot of
emphasis about the fountains of the great deep. If the catastrophic release
were a nonlinear curve of water release ( Genisis 7:11 in that day all the
fountains of the great deep broken up) then it is quite reasonable to suspect
that the earth was flooded primarily due to the volume of water release greater
than the expansion rate until such time as the water release came began to stop
then the expansion overtook the water volume and the flood waters subsided into
the now ocean basins. The weight of the water over the cracks at
some point would keep the water from spewing out into space and given the
gravitational effects for the earth at 1/3 size the necessary force for
escaping the gravitational pull would be greater since the differences in
gravity would not be a strict linear curve in a VG enviroment..... I cannot
ignore the fact that the contents only fit together on a smaller globe and the
geology is one of stretching not subduction unless you assume it first and
ignore everything else,......in fact there is no engine for subduction except
the overall "gravitational? effects of HC cosmology.. Umm.... Where a popcorned
(Relatively slowly primarily say over 1 year) earth would explain how and why
so many fossils are found on land and were not simply all wiped away in to the
ocean basins themselves particularly since if the flood took place on the earth
at its current size ..well do the math the present surface of the earth is 80%
water the erosion of all of the land masses would have dissolved almost
entirely into the oceans themselves unless the land mass was much greater in
the past but that poses a whole new set of problems in any explanation as well
as the fact that the continents do mach up together, one simple must ignore the
patterns....... other such evidence such a palladium halos, the fossile record
(size of animals and insects note there were giants in those days Genisis
6:4...ummm ...decrease in gravity would have that affect on a normal 6-7 foot
tall man today & dinos too, maybe even affect longevity ?) testify to the
quickness & totality of the event as well as the
narratives of the food story which demand a sudden catastrophic event rather
then any mild gradualistic event which also must take into account the
recessional effects of the water which would be quite different if the water
flowed in to a basin that opened at a rate almost consistent with the volume of
water created rather then a volume of water over the whole earth that recesses
into a gaping basin the erosion factors/ effects are entirely different. That
would be the effect if the size of the earth were the same and the water that
covered the whole earth is now all contained in the oceans..unless of course
you are to argue that some of the water that was then does not now exist here
on earth......Quite simply there is no other mechanical explanation that can
account for all the necessary variables that this model can intrinsically and
with what is observed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgidAICoQI
Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: The earths crust is .05% or
.005% (I cant remember which) water right now. A realese of only 2/5ths of what
is curently contained in the rocks would accout for all of todays oceans ......
Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgidAICoQI
You have to see this the more i think about it the more sense it makes from a
biblical stand point the whole quickness of the water level rise and fall in
the flood thing as well as gravity oxegen density dinos and ???..I dont belive
what I see this.."yoohoo"... actualy figured it out minus a few details like
the age of the earth.......look at the strech marks..I cant belive what
thoughts I have had over the last several hours.....!
http://www.nealadams.com/challenge.html
Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I ran across this by accident, I have never heard of this , I?m certainly
not endorsing this, but in terms of perportions, ratios and such there are
some interesting underlying ideas. Granted they may led nowhere but his basic
idea bings to mind the biblical flood/water issues..I have seen Walter Brown?s
model and others which have many strengths but still problems, however the
basic idea here as far fetched and crazy as it may seem strikes me very
curiously....at first I thought this was a joke and did not think much about
it.....this guy is a entertainer not a professional scientist but after reading
much of the supporting pages and arguments and issues, it occurred to me that
by hook or by crook these wacked out ideas/theories may be worth the effort &
time to tear apart............
http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html
http://www.nealadams.com/EarthProject/newest.html
http://www.nealadams.com/EarthProject/fromthedesky.html
http://www.nealadams.com/EarthProject/antipangea.html
http://www.nealadams.com/PhysicsOfGrow.html
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