[geocentrism] Re: Grew

  • From: Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 15:23:20 -0700 (PDT)

One more thing, those 200' titanic tidal waves the scoffers often refer to if 
there was a global flood would be mitigated and dependent upon the expansion 
rate of the earth?s surface area during the flood year ......those 200' tidal 
waves would be no more then 10-20' swells......


Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:    In Newtonian/Einsteinian 
gravity the strength or pull of gravity is based solely on the mass of the 
object where I would argue for VG theory ... In VG theory gravity is a function 
of the mass as well as shape/ volume of the object(s) in question like the sand 
on the sound boards shape/volume is just as important as mass/density.... if 
the earth were 1/3 the size it is now the gravitational effects would not be 
that much different since the relative distance to the center of mass would be 
nearly the same when accounting for the increase in density that a earth 1/3 
the size would have. Although water does not compress generally, the density of 
tap water is less than the density of sea water, the density of the earths 
crustal core with a hydration of say .007% would be far more dense then the 
water itself. In this way if the earth stretched due to a sudden catastrophic 
release of say ~1/7 of that water (popcorn effect) the
 density would decrease while the volume would increase this would account for 
the apparent increase in gravity 
(http://www.nealadams.com/EarthProject/antipangea.html) although the total mass 
of the earth would have stayed the same. Floating on the flood waters the 
effects for Noah would be nothing more then a ride on a conventional elevator. 
It has been calculated that the heat distribution of rain water itself is not 
sufficient for the task as well as the fact that scripture go to a lot of 
emphasis about the fountains of the great deep. If the catastrophic release 
were a nonlinear curve of water release ( Genisis 7:11 in that day all the 
fountains of the great deep broken up) then it is quite reasonable to suspect 
that the earth was flooded primarily due to the volume of water release greater 
than the expansion rate until such time as the water release came began to stop 
then the expansion overtook the water volume and the flood waters subsided into 
the now ocean basins.
 The weight of the water over the cracks at some point would keep the water 
from spewing out into space and given the gravitational effects for the earth 
at 1/3 size the necessary force for escaping the gravitational pull would be 
greater since the differences in gravity would not be a strict linear curve in 
a VG enviroment..... I cannot ignore the fact that the contents only fit 
together on a smaller globe and the geology is one of stretching not subduction 
unless you assume it first and ignore everything else,......in fact there is no 
engine for subduction except the overall "gravitational? effects of HC 
cosmology.. Umm.... Where a popcorned 
  (Relatively slowly primarily say over 1 year) earth would explain how and why 
so many fossils are found on land and were not simply all wiped away in to the 
ocean basins themselves particularly since if the flood took place on the earth 
at its current size ..well do the math the present surface of the earth is 80% 
water the erosion of all of the land masses would have dissolved almost 
entirely into the oceans themselves unless the land mass was much greater in 
the past but that poses a whole new set of problems in any explanation as well 
as the fact that the continents do mach up together, one simple must ignore the 
patterns....... other such evidence such a palladium halos, the fossile record 
(size of animals and insects note there were giants in those days Genisis 
6:4...ummm ...decrease in gravity would have that affect on a normal 6-7 foot 
tall man today & dinos too, maybe even affect longevity ?) testify to the 
quickness & totality of the event as well as the
 narratives of the food story which demand a sudden catastrophic event rather 
then any mild gradualistic event which also must take into account the 
recessional effects of the water which would be quite different if the water 
flowed in to a basin that opened at a rate almost consistent with the volume of 
water created rather then a volume of water over the whole earth that recesses 
into a gaping basin the erosion factors/ effects are entirely different. That 
would be the effect if the size of the earth were the same and the water that 
covered the whole earth is now all contained in the oceans..unless of course 
you are to argue that some of the water that was then does not now exist here 
on earth......Quite simply there is no other mechanical explanation that can 
account for all the necessary variables that this model can intrinsically and 
with what is observed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgidAICoQI
   
   


Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:     The earths crust is .05% or 
.005% (I cant remember which) water right now. A realese of only 2/5ths of what 
is curently contained in the rocks would accout for all of todays oceans ......
  
Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgidAICoQI
   
  You have to see this the more i think about it the more sense it makes from a 
biblical stand point the whole quickness of the water level rise and fall in 
the flood thing as well as gravity oxegen density dinos and ???..I dont belive 
what I see this.."yoohoo"... actualy figured it out minus a few details like 
the age of the earth.......look at the strech marks..I cant belive what 
thoughts I have had over the last several hours.....!
http://www.nealadams.com/challenge.html
   
   
  
Allen Daves <allendaves@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  
  I ran across this by accident, I have never heard of this ,  I?m certainly 
not endorsing this,  but in terms of perportions, ratios and such there are 
some interesting underlying ideas. Granted they may led nowhere but his basic 
idea bings to mind the biblical flood/water issues..I have seen Walter Brown?s 
model and others which have many strengths but still problems, however the 
basic idea here as far fetched and crazy as it may seem strikes me very 
curiously....at first I thought this was a joke and did not think much about 
it.....this guy is a entertainer not a professional scientist but after reading 
much of the supporting pages and arguments and issues, it occurred to me that 
by hook or by crook these wacked out ideas/theories may be worth the effort & 
time to tear apart............ 
   
  http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html
  http://www.nealadams.com/EarthProject/newest.html
  
  
  
  http://www.nealadams.com/EarthProject/fromthedesky.html
  http://www.nealadams.com/EarthProject/antipangea.html
  
  
  
  http://www.nealadams.com/PhysicsOfGrow.html





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