Dear All, Just before I work on the eclipse paper, I remembered that someone on this forum claimed that a geostationary satellite could (or possibly could) be seen with a powerful telescope. (Apologies for not looking back and addressing who actually hinted at this.) "Geosynchronous transfer orbit (GTO) [occurs at] exactly 35,786 km above the equator" (http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/resources/glossary/geosynchronous_transfer_orbit.htm). At such a distance, a sizeable 2 m satellite would subtend only 2 m / 35,786,000 m = 5.6 x 10-8 rads, whereas the theoretical angular resolution of the Keck 10 m telescope in the visible is 1.22 x 5.6 x 10-6 / 10 = 6.8 x 10-7 rads. I.e., even in the absence of the atmosphere, the World?s largest ground-based astronomical telescope could not detect a supposed geostationary satellite. We cannot, therefore, simply see these things. Neville. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com