Hi Mike, NASA scientists seem to think that satellite motion is consistent with general relativity, not Newtonian mechanics... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20041022/sc_afp/us_space_ 041022005256&e=4 ...and that they don't need to use a rotating reference system for satellite navigation and tracking: The Satellite Situation Center Web (SSCWeb) service has been developed .... to support a range of NASA science programs and to fulfill key international NASA responsibilities including those of NSSDC and the World Data Center-A for Rockets and Satellites. The software and associated database of SSCWeb together form a system to cast geocentric spacecraft location information into a framework of (empirical) geophysical regions and mappings of spacecraft locations along lines of the Earth's magnetic field. This service enables computation of a set of the main geomagnetic field model parameters and transformation from the GEOcentric spherical (geographic) coordinates to the Corrected GeoMagnetic (CGM) coordinates and vice versa. ..... The input parameter (sic) are: a.. Geocentric or Corrected GeoMagnetic Latitude and Longitude b.. Altitude above the 1-Re (6371.2 km) surface: 40,000 km limit c.. Year for Definitive/International Geomagnetic Reference Field (DGRF/IGRF) models from 1945 to 2005 The GPS system uses an Earth-Centered, Earth Fixed (ECEF) frame of reference and is not bashful about defining it as geostatic: http://www.commlinx.com.au/Datum%20Transformation%20Description.html But the Geocentric input parameters used by NASA above are free of external references to the Sun or the stars, using a surface point to fix the longitude (Greenwich). So the reference system is correctly termed geostatic, not just geocentric. Have you notified NASA of their errors? Robert -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:29 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Fwd: Fw: Geostatic Satellites ........... Hi Jack, The satellites orbiting the earth now (including the moon) are consistent with Newtonian mechanics and the earth rotating once every sidereal day to a very high degree of accuracy. So if you believe the earth does not rotate you have two choices: 1. Newtonian mechanics is wrong 2. The satalites aren't there (including the moon) Regards, Mike.