[geocentrism] Re: Feasibility
- From: "Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:24:59 -0600
Neville,
Thank you for the response below. Not sure we have connected.
1. Your if/then conclusion on the Bible vs. Nasa doesn't logically or
conclusively sufficient, for one reason, you assume you are interpreting
the Bible correctly in regard to "move" (which I admit I haven't studied
in context, but which perhaps includes or not spinning vs forward
motion).
2. Your paper on the moon landing tells me that you can determine the
actual (not just relative) speed of a rocket based on the rocket
exhaust. So, for example, if I could start with a motionless rocket
sitting in space and burn enough fuel to achieve an actual speed of 2000
mph, then I know the rocket is going 2000 mph (relative only to the
ether I suppose). If the moon is pulling away from me (sitting in my
rocket) at 1000 mph (or whatever), then I can figure it must be going
3000 mph in actual speed (again relative only to the ether). This
answer can then be used to test whether the earth is spinning (based on
what the speed of the moon appears to be to us on earth vs. what its
actual speed is). We don't have such a rocket, but we do have
satellites, so the question is whether this simple test can be used by
someone who knows how satellites are moved and adjusted.
Thank you.
Nick.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dr. Neville Jones [mailto:ntj005@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:19 PM
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: Feasibility
Nick,
No. This is where relative motion comes into it. We are here on God's
World and what we see of the Sun, Moon and stars can be made to be the
same, whether the World has two components of motion (HC case), or no
components of motion (Biblical case).
If we are travelling in a rocket, then things are totally different and,
yes, we would be able to tell. Indeed, if NASA has landed men on the
Moon, then the Bible verses which say that the World is established and
cannot be moved are wrong. Since they are inspired by God, God would be
a liar. However, since God never lies, NASA have certainly not landed
men on the Moon.
Neville.
"Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Neville,
Bear with my simple, non-scientific knowledge. If you can measure the
speed of the Nasa spacecraft based on the rocket exhaust expulsion, then
you can measure the speed of the moon by lining the spacecraft up with
it. If I drive in the left lane of the Interstate going 70 miles per
hour and I stay lined up with the car in the right lane, than I can
conclude it is also going 70 miles per hour. If I follow your paper,
then since the actual speed of the moon is greater if the Earth is
geostatic and slower if the earth rotates, then it would seem man could
determine the moons actual speed, if willing (and could probably
determine the geo vs. helio issue in the same way). Since only Nasa has
the rockets and apparently can't be trusted, is there something else
moving in space of known speed (e.g. a satellite) by which to perform
the same test.
Regards,
Nick.
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