At 05:45 AM 8/2/2004, Dr. Jones wrote: > Dear Alan (and others), > > Finally, you stated, "I notice everything has gone very quiet about Neville's > flawed paper!" Since the paper was withdrawn, then why should we still be > discussing it? > > Neville. One important reason for discussing the flawed paper, is that it provides important clues. Having scoured it before it was withdrawn, I was impressed with the general lack of errors. You did an immense job, with only one or two errors--but those errors were crucial. I haven't scoured your latest paper (OK, I scanned it for insults and pulled those out just for the discussion about "tone" in our postings), but we can use the information that I derived from your first paper to help us find the error in this paper. I'm going to assume that you did not make a lot of errors, maybe only one. Just from your post to this group, I understand that what you are doing is analyzing the distance to the stars in a fashion so that it is consistent with the physics of eyes and photons, and you are using the Sun as the model, and calculating how far away it would be if it were a sixth magnitude star in our sky--I think I would learn a lot just reading the paper, whether its conclusion is correct or not. In your post, you state that that your result is 1.27 light days. That of course is at odds with modern astronomy. I looked up a typical sixth magnitude star, and found that it was listed as 660 light years from the Earth, and 121 times brighter than the Sun. So, if the Sun were sixth magnitude, that would mean that it would be at 660/sqrt(121), or 60 light years away. That's considerably farther than your result of 1.27 light days. How much farther? 60 light years is (60 x 365.25)/1.27 or 17256 times farther. Since we have taken the square root of the distance, what happens when we square this? 17256 squared is 297769536. That is very close to the speed of light in meters per second. Could you, somewhere in the paper, have converted a distance and forgot about factoring in the speed of light constant? That would be my next step, to check those conversions.