In a message dated 4/3/2005 3:47:02 PM Central Daylight Time, lusicic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: I have read logs on a cache that was supposed to have a TB. I remembered seeing that because the log was signed about a month earlier and it indicated that they took the TB. One we just found this weekend was logged the in the cache logbook (physical book) that they'd left one the day before, but was nowhere to be found. So that's why I was confused about them. I'm looking for something that looks like the picture on the website, but I've never seen one "up close and personal" so if they aren't like the picture, then I guess that's why I'm confused! Jana Chosenlass "If we can't dawdle in the rear, we may as well dawdle in the front."