[GeoStL] Re: Legal Thread
- From: "Bob TheCacher" <cachefinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 07:54:43 -0500
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Sticking your hand in anything, without first looking in there, is a choice.
Not a threat.
BBD1
From: Carol Shahriary <shah11@xxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Legal Thread
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:43:29 -0700 (PDT)
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How about caches where you have to stick your hand in
a hole (like in a tree) where you can't see what's in
there? It seems like there are a lot of caches like
that.
DS
--- Bob TheCacher <cachefinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> -
> This is an interesting topic. A legal council here
> at work stated to me
> that the cache placer is liable for injuries while
> hunting the cache IF the
> cache placer does not disclose such undo threats in
> seeking the cache. A
> simple walk through a park and finding a cache at
> the base of a tree or
> hanging from a limb does not contain an "undo
> threat". However a close by
> rock ledge or placing a cache near an embankment
> next to some water does.
> This type of disclosure SHOULD be stated in the
> cache page to warn the
> seeker of a potential hazardous situation. So if
> you have a cache that may
> have an "undo threat" in seeking the cache (or
> waypoint) please state so in
> your cache page, just to be sure your covered. As
> always, if you don't
> think your cache is child friendly, please state so
> in your cache page
> listing.
>
> A good example of an "undo threat" cache page is The
> Knife Edge, GC11GWB.
> He explaines the potential dangers of getting to
> this cache. You may want
> to follow a similar suit if you have such a cache.
> BBD1
>
>
> >From: Skyler Dragon <skylerdragon@xxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [GeoStL] Legal Thread
> >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:16:15 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >-
> >I stumbled on an interesting discussion about
> >liability in the groundspeak forums.
> (thread#168699)
> >This discussion was in the general geocaching
> forums
> >and not in the Moga or SLAGA sections.
> >
> >I posted to the MoGA forum a comment about the
> >discussion. I thought I'd post here too since this
> >seems more active.
> >
> >General discussion in the thread suggests that
> cache
> >owners are liable for injuries that occur to people
> >seeking their caches. The general discussion also
> >states that the liability clause only protects
> >groundspeak from suit if something happens.
> >
> >I had a few questions about this since I'm mostly
> >ignorant about law.
> >
> >1. Are cache placers liable if someone gets hurt
> >seeking a cache?
> >
> >2. Do we have any SLAGA members knowledgable on
> legal
> >matters?
> >
> >3. Has there been any interest in SLAGA to invite
> >historians, lawyers or politicians for training/or
> >workshops and classes? I know I'd like to hear
> from a
> >lawyer about this and I love attending workshops
> about
> >local history and such.
> >
> > PLEASE NOTE: I am not trying to start trouble,
> I am
> >just curious. I have not been injured seeking a
> >cache. I just saw the discussion and thought it
> would
> >be interesting to discuss.
> >
> >Books just wanna be FREE! See what I mean at:
> >http://bookcrossing.com/friend/Skylerdragon
> >
> >
> >
>
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From: Carol Shahriary <shah11@xxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Legal Thread Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:43:29 -0700 (PDT) - How about caches where you have to stick your hand in a hole (like in a tree) where you can't see what's in there? It seems like there are a lot of caches like that. DS --- Bob TheCacher <cachefinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > - > This is an interesting topic. A legal council here > at work stated to me > that the cache placer is liable for injuries while > hunting the cache IF the > cache placer does not disclose such undo threats in > seeking the cache. A > simple walk through a park and finding a cache at > the base of a tree or > hanging from a limb does not contain an "undo > threat". However a close by > rock ledge or placing a cache near an embankment > next to some water does. > This type of disclosure SHOULD be stated in the > cache page to warn the > seeker of a potential hazardous situation. So if > you have a cache that may > have an "undo threat" in seeking the cache (or > waypoint) please state so in > your cache page, just to be sure your covered. As > always, if you don't > think your cache is child friendly, please state so > in your cache page > listing. > > A good example of an "undo threat" cache page is The > Knife Edge, GC11GWB. > He explaines the potential dangers of getting to > this cache. You may want > to follow a similar suit if you have such a cache. > BBD1 > > > >From: Skyler Dragon <skylerdragon@xxxxxxxxx> > >Reply-To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: [GeoStL] Legal Thread > >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:16:15 -0700 (PDT) > > > >- > >I stumbled on an interesting discussion about > >liability in the groundspeak forums. > (thread#168699) > >This discussion was in the general geocaching > forums > >and not in the Moga or SLAGA sections. > > > >I posted to the MoGA forum a comment about the > >discussion. I thought I'd post here too since this > >seems more active. > > > >General discussion in the thread suggests that > cache > >owners are liable for injuries that occur to people > >seeking their caches. The general discussion also > >states that the liability clause only protects > >groundspeak from suit if something happens. > > > >I had a few questions about this since I'm mostly > >ignorant about law. > > > >1. Are cache placers liable if someone gets hurt > >seeking a cache? > > > >2. Do we have any SLAGA members knowledgable on > legal > >matters? > > > >3. Has there been any interest in SLAGA to invite > >historians, lawyers or politicians for training/or > >workshops and classes? I know I'd like to hear > from a > >lawyer about this and I love attending workshops > about > >local history and such. > > > > PLEASE NOTE: I am not trying to start trouble, > I am > >just curious. I have not been injured seeking a > >cache. I just saw the discussion and thought it > would > >be interesting to discuss. > > > >Books just wanna be FREE! See what I mean at: > >http://bookcrossing.com/friend/Skylerdragon > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ > >Got a little couch potato? > >Check out fun summer activities for kids. > >http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > **************************************** > > For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including > unsubscribing from this > > list, click -----> > http://www.freelists.org/list/geocaching > > Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived > http://tinyurl.com/87cqw > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play > Chicktionary! > http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2 > > > > **************************************** > For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including > unsubscribing from this > list, click -----> > http://www.freelists.org/list/geocaching > Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived > http://tinyurl.com/87cqw > Carol Strawberry"Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." (William James)
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