-Sticking your hand in anything, without first looking in there, is a choice. Not a threat.
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From: Carol Shahriary <shah11@xxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Legal Thread Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:43:29 -0700 (PDT) - How about caches where you have to stick your hand in a hole (like in a tree) where you can't see what's in there? It seems like there are a lot of caches like that. DS --- Bob TheCacher <cachefinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > - > This is an interesting topic. A legal council here > at work stated to me > that the cache placer is liable for injuries while > hunting the cache IF the > cache placer does not disclose such undo threats in > seeking the cache. A > simple walk through a park and finding a cache at > the base of a tree or > hanging from a limb does not contain an "undo > threat". However a close by > rock ledge or placing a cache near an embankment > next to some water does. > This type of disclosure SHOULD be stated in the > cache page to warn the > seeker of a potential hazardous situation. So if > you have a cache that may > have an "undo threat" in seeking the cache (or > waypoint) please state so in > your cache page, just to be sure your covered. As > always, if you don't > think your cache is child friendly, please state so > in your cache page > listing. > > A good example of an "undo threat" cache page is The > Knife Edge, GC11GWB. > He explaines the potential dangers of getting to > this cache. You may want > to follow a similar suit if you have such a cache. > BBD1 > > > >From: Skyler Dragon <skylerdragon@xxxxxxxxx> > >Reply-To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: [GeoStL] Legal Thread > >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:16:15 -0700 (PDT) > > > >- > >I stumbled on an interesting discussion about > >liability in the groundspeak forums. > (thread#168699) > >This discussion was in the general geocaching > forums > >and not in the Moga or SLAGA sections. > > > >I posted to the MoGA forum a comment about the > >discussion. I thought I'd post here too since this > >seems more active. > > > >General discussion in the thread suggests that > cache > >owners are liable for injuries that occur to people > >seeking their caches. The general discussion also > >states that the liability clause only protects > >groundspeak from suit if something happens. > > > >I had a few questions about this since I'm mostly > >ignorant about law. > > > >1. Are cache placers liable if someone gets hurt > >seeking a cache? > > > >2. Do we have any SLAGA members knowledgable on > legal > >matters? > > > >3. Has there been any interest in SLAGA to invite > >historians, lawyers or politicians for training/or > >workshops and classes? I know I'd like to hear > from a > >lawyer about this and I love attending workshops > about > >local history and such. > > > > PLEASE NOTE: I am not trying to start trouble, > I am > >just curious. I have not been injured seeking a > >cache. I just saw the discussion and thought it > would > >be interesting to discuss. > > > >Books just wanna be FREE! See what I mean at: > >http://bookcrossing.com/friend/Skylerdragon > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ > >Got a little couch potato? > >Check out fun summer activities for kids. > >http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > **************************************** > > For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including > unsubscribing from this > > list, click -----> > //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching > > Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived > http://tinyurl.com/87cqw > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play > Chicktionary! > http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2 > > > > **************************************** > For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including > unsubscribing from this > list, click -----> > //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching > Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived > http://tinyurl.com/87cqw > Carol Strawberry"Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing." (William James)**************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw
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