I agree with starting the boys with a map and compass. You need to understand the basics before moving on to something more sophisticated. Starting them out with a GPSr is like teaching kids math with just a calculator. They never will understand HOW math works if started with a calculator. Same holds true with land navigation. There are probably many people in the group that couldn't navigate their way out of a public park with out a GPS. Learning a topo map and using a compass is invaluable. How many times have the batteries gone dead in the middle of a hunt. _____ From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edwin Biesemeyer Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 5:43 PM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Geocaching in Cub Scouts My son, Doodles, is part of troop 664 that meets at, and is sponsored by Immanuel Lutheran Church in Creve Ceour. I got the scout master, better known as scout664, interested in geocaching. He says that the boys are supposed to stick to the map and compass method. I guess he isn't aware that the St. Louis Area Council is thinking of incorporating this as part of the activities. He has however allowed me to introduce the boys to geocaching. This past fall/winter we went to Babler State Park for some advancement work and we looked for and found one of the caches after the boys acheived what they went there for. Since that day the Scout Master has registered with GC.com and he and his son have been caching on a somewhat regular basis. I will mention this area to him as he may not be aware that they are trying to incorporate this activity into Scouting. My youngest son will be joining Tigers this fall with Pack 66 4. Believe me when I tell you, Fall can't get here soon enough for him. -$piritwing <http://www.edwinglenn.com> Edwin G. Biesemeyer <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys/1.gif> Track your Dollar Bills <http://www.wheresgeorge.com> Ever wonder where your money goes. See how to track it with the link above. _____ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th <http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html>