I agree with Martin. All of the messages regarding this went direct to trash. All of you that want to argue and do a committee or whatever - that is fine by me - but kindly stop bothering me regarding this. I do not care how the Post Office gets my mail to me just that mail gets to me. In a similar manner I could not care how EVTECH gets to me just that it does. Dan Bentler --- On Mon, 4/12/10, Martin K <martin.klingensmith@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Martin K <martin.klingensmith@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [evtech] Re: EVTECH Old vs EVTECH New lists: We need to make a decision as a group. To: evtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, April 12, 2010, 7:36 PM Sheer used to utilize my server for some evtech stuff. I had to take that server offline and I haven't talked to him in almost 3 years. I'm still certainly willing to help EV causes but the bickering really gets on my nerves. Let's stay on evtech.org for now and put this list on hiatus. On Apr 12, 2010 10:28 PM, "eric@xxxxxxxxx" <eric@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: It wasn't for lack of trying. I tracked down and emailed a couple of email addresses (which didn't work) others tried calling every phone number they could find. The *first* thing that was tried was to get the list back up. There wasn't _any_ light at the end of the tunnel, and we had no (none, zero, nada) indication that anything would change. The only option was to resurrect the list elsewhere. It's not as if people just shrugged after 5 minutes of the list being down and said "screw it, lets's start a new list." People did the right thing and tried to contact the administrators, and did everything that could reasonably be expected in the situation. Now, after the fact, in the blazing light of hindsight, people are saying that they "see no reason" to abandon the list. Except that it's been shown to be somewhat unreliable. Don't get me wrong; I _really_ don't care if we use the "new," or the "old" list, I just want something that works; and that requires some sort of redundant safeguards. One other thing I can't state strongly enough: I appreciate all the effort, time and money that sheer & others have put in to making the list a reality, and in no way can I fault them for what happened; it was an unfortunate confluence of events. Having said that, I'll put my money where my mouth is: I'm willing to offer any help I can with the maintenance of the (old) list. I have quite a bit of Linux admin experience, and it appears that evtech.org is running Ubuntu. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Roger Stockton <rstockton@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I don't fault an... Set options or unsubscribe at //www.freelists.org/list/evtech Archive at http://www.freelists.o...