This is so true, of English lessons in general! My son just started English in 3rd grade. He is very excited about it and although he is not this "model pupil" at all, he was really looking forward to studying the language. After 2lessons he already got the idea and asked me :Mom, why doesn't the English teacher just teach like the other teachers? We always have to sing silly songs and repeat words together. All the kids start shouting and no one understands what's going on. Why can't we just sit and do exercices in our workbooks, like we do in other subjects? " We often feel we have to entertain the kids, but actually they just really want to STUDY-in the old-fashioned way! Sandra ----- Original Message ---- From: Ask_Etni <ask@xxxxxxxx> To: ETNI <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:50:50 PM Subject: [etni] Fw: teach them to read ----- Original Message ----- From: byk - byk@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: teach them to read Wendy's comment about 'teaching them to read' was very true. Over the years, I have taught many pupils who couldn't read, to do so. It can be done, but it does take patience and trained teachers to do it. Also time! This is a commodity teachers have so much of, right? Reading doesn't always come automatically to all people, and many elementary school teachers haven't been trained to do it. Then again, I'm sure we've all taught students who read beautifully, sound as if they understand every word, then ask you what 'mother' is? HOWEVER, do remember that some people are genuinely dislexic, and their inability to read or to read fluently is a real handicap. Imagine my joy, this Shavuot, when, over dinner, my 31 year old daughter said to me "You know, Mummy, I can read. Bring me a newspaper." I did, and she proceeded to read it fluently. This miracle was accomplished because there were things she wanted to read on the internet, so she struggled. She still says ' I didn't went,' though! The final word is that, obviously, far too many students are getting dispesations, because when you've charged 3 or 4 thousand shekels for an assessment, it is only human nature to want to give something for it. Though I hesitate to suggest it, given our wonderful bureaucracy, I believe the answer lies in much more carefully controlled tests, administered by he ministry. And much more attention paid to teaching reading, and less to songs and games, many of which are only learned in a garbled fashion. Kids love to learn to read in second and third grade, and the teacher can give them hours of practice which would bore older children. Jennifer Byk ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------