Good stuff. Enjoy life for what it is, and the conveniences are a bonus. I make my life revolve around them less every day. JC 133d0d2310 --- John Christensen 1984 El Camino "Elkenstein" 350 TBI NECOA #042 http://www.myelcamino.net Saint Charles, IL 133d0d2310 On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 7:03 PM, Dann Keller <kwhale22@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I couldn't agree more with what Mary said. Just because someone thinks up > a new app doesn't mean we all need it. The hype on TV especially for some > of these things is to sell product. Selling unneeded things to people has > been part of the sales game since the age of the travelling peddler. > > I bought a low-end laptop and still don't need 95% of what it can do or its > capacity. So what? I use what I need and don't worry about the rest. Same > for the cell phone; I make calls (and text only because our granddaughter > texts us when we're traveling.) > > None of us can keep up with the pace of technology; so be it. I heard > recently that most general practioner doctors were at least five years > behind the curve on new knowledge in medicine, but at least my doctor > doesn't use blood draining to "release the bad humors that afflict my soul". > > I'm thinking that Ray does more in a day than I do in a week; I can live > with that and I wish he'd cut back a little for his sake. I'm thinking > maybe I ought to join Frank back in the hills (or at least venture up in the > hills behind Mary or Rick; really nice country back there.) > > From my standpoint personal computers and wireless phones are still > conveniences to make live easier, not to complicate it. > > Dan > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:10:24 -0700 > From: printces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [elky] Re: Got a smart phone > > I wouldn't give up. I think it's kinda like kids in school - they see that > this kid has this and that kid has that, so your kids think they should have > both. Most of us don't need every gadget, but it increases sales a lot when > one gadget does for everyone. No phone should have a 160 page manual in > multiple languages. I have a cell phone. I use to to make phone calls. > that's it. I find having the numbers programmed in is very helpful, but it > means I don't know anyone's phone number anymore. I don't think anyone is > expected to know how to use every feature on every gadget. > > > I'm finding this new computer immensely frustrating. fiddled most of > yesterday with photos. Dan disabled the mouse pad at the bottom because I > kept hitting it as I typed. wheeeee > > I think we all need to accept that we don't need to use or understand every > feature. That its there for someone who does have that unique need. > > keep taking those vitamins, but I think alzheimers is either environmental > or hereditary. My mother was dingy, but she always was, it just got more > extreme as she aged. what would have been considered a psych disorder when > she was 30 was suddenly Alzheimers because she was older. She also > gobbled calcium tablets like candy back in the 60's. Turns out they had > lead in them. And cooked in aluminum pans scraping off the aluminum into > the food every time she stirred it. Then along came non-stick coatings and > she scraped those down to bare metal, too. > > I also think if you keep your brain busy it won't wear out. the old "use > it or lose it." I'm more worried about keeping up with you, than you losing > it. Everyone forgets things (too much crap in the storage facility and you > can't find anything). I'm amazed you do as much as you do and have come so > far in the few years since you picked up your old camera and headed out to > the track. > > and even our son who grew up on the net has to go searching for answers to > my computer problems sometimes, so don't think you are supposed to know > everything. That's why we have gadgets - it's a vicious circle. > > I think if you can use a gadget to do what you need done, that's enough. > > take a break. > > Mary > > > > As I wrote a while back, I decided to get a "smart phone." I dunno...maybe > it wasn't such a smart idea. The learning curve is approximately > vertical. It's a Motorola Cliq. It's an "Android" phone which means that > it 1) isn't a Mac (good thing,) 2) runs an OS based on a Linux kernel and > for numbers three thru forty-eleven, has a bunch of applications available > for it, many of which are open-source (this makes a big difference to me > over an iPhone) and this one has a discrete keyboard, but much of the > control is done with touchpad control on the LCD screen and there's a lot > more. > > The main reason I decided to buy it is to have a way of showing my > photography to prospective customers and to use as a tether, in essence a > cellular or 3G modem for my laptop instead of that awful thing I used last > year on the salt that required a reboot every 2 hours, generally when a real > fast car or bike was making a run. I've been working on slide shows and > screen savers and I'd like to be able to show those as well. > > I don't need the GPS (I just bought a Garmin for the Burb) or the camera > (who needs a 5 megapixel camera when ya got one camera with 10 and another > with 18?) > > After messing with it most of the evening, I was able to make an update to > my FaceBook account from the phone, through the laptop, via my local wifi > net, through the linux server, and over the DSL line. I think I forgot > "over the river and through the woods." > > And, strangely enough, I can make phone calls with it. > > But the rest of the stuff...holy shit. I've been able to connect it as a > USB device and copy files to it, but once they're "there"...well, I have yet > to figure out how to access 'em from the phone's touch screen controls. > > Here's where I find myself in a quandary. For most of my adult life, I've > been relatively close to the bleeding edge of technology...not exactly out > in front, but well-acquainted enough to help other folks who seem to have > trouble with technology...one of my friends refers to himself as a > "technotard." I've always told myself that I'd never allow said self to get > to that "technologically-disadvantaged" state. But this frikkin phone makes > me wonder. > > I didn't grow up playing Nintendo games. Hell, I was writing simple games > on a TI-99 when they first came out, then on a Commodore-64 and had one of > the first 286 chip/hard drive-based PCs available. But my "learning > experience" came from the top down rather than the bottom up like the kids > who can handle a remote controller before they can walk. Well, maybe not > that much, but you get the point. It's like the "dub wheels" thing. It's > my opinion that they became popular because they looked (in the beginning) > like Hot Wheels cars, which became popular shortly befor my children were > born. I guess you could say that I wasn't "socialized with advanced > technology" at the root level. > > So here I sit with a whole buncha highly technical stuff (an old > acquaintance once called me a "technophile" and I countered by calling him a > Luddite), but still I feel like I'm just on the event horizon of losing > touch with current stuff. I have this fear that once I lose touch, I'll be > sucked into the black hole of old-fogey-itis. Then I'll never get back. > But is is worth it? I think it is to me at this time, because I need to use > technology to further the photography and web development stuff, since I > have no idea if I'll have an income when I hit the age of 65, 2.5 years from > now. I guess this old dog's gotta learn new tricks. > > However, this whole concept was shaken when a friend of mine (nearing the > age of 80) said that he could no longer read instruction manuals; he > couldn't even enjoy reading a novel because by the time he got to chapter 3, > he couldn't remember what had happened in chapter 1. Now this guy has a > very good education, worked in a field that required him to stay current > with advances in many fields and in general is a very sharp dude. But this > statement was like a kick to the gut. Is this what lies ahead for me? A > complete loss of something that's been an underlying theme for virtually my > entire life? That scares me much more than death. Hell, I've been > terrified of Alzheimer's Disease for a long time (as has my sister, who just > turned 60) and I'm even trying some new "supplements" in hopes of either > staving off or reversing the memory problems I already have as the result of > heart disease. So not only do I have the fear of AD, but now the statement > that my friend made has added another brick in the wall, so to speak. > > I guess the only thing that can be done is to keep on keepin on. Maybe > I'll wander away from my house one day and never come back...except for the > fact that I now have 2 GPS devices. :) I may not know where I am, but I'll > never be lost...or vice-versa. > > Ok. I need something to soothe me into blissful slumber. I think a NASCAR > race on my DVR will act very nicely as a soporific. But even that's high > tech: satellite HDTV, digital video recorder on a 48" screen with stereo > sound routed through an amp to external speakers. Maybe I otta pick up > those drum sticks Rick D mentioned the other day and go find an animal skin > to stretch over a wooden frame and return to the stone age through > percussion. > > I give up. > > r > > -- > Sent from my Dreadnought using that barely tolerable Thunderbird email program > > > > ------------------------------ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up > now. <http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/> >