Perhaps if one is desperate to sell something, one might simply say "I have stuff for sale, go here...." and not put prohibited messages on the list? Helen, Noel, would that be acceptable? As the archives will show, there has been much discussion of pairing a new critter with a more experienced partner, even to begin driving training, never mind starting up pairs. nearly all of it was in support of this practice. Personally, I am currently arguing with a pair who were previously quite happy together, but now I am dealing with one who is borderline drag racer. He is good with other horses, and great single, but for an as yet undetermined reason, semi out of control with his old partner. I'll keep you posted. Sterling _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.shtml `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````