Ansley, I know what you mean about the downward pressure on the neckstrap. Darn! Here I was becoming pretty satisfied with the idea of breast collars until you posted. Hmm, I think I'll go with breast collars and pads for right now. Then, prehaps I'll drop by the local driving club at one of their competitions and see what I can learn about the neck collars. I like the idea of freeing up the shoulder area, although I haven't had any rubs from my breast collars. Judy _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````