Mike, Accessibility is a relative term in many cases. Ivan is a new Sonar user that has just purchased CT. He is still wrapping his head around what columns are available on MIDI tracks compared to audio tracks, and how to insert a softsynth. For someone in that position, hotspot sets and access through mechanisms like the track inspector are complex workarounds that aren't in the same category as the easy accessibility CT provides for plugs like Dimension and Session Drummer. When new users ask about plugs like Guitar Rig, I tell them that they aren't accessible, because they expect accessible means that the plug will easily talk with the scripts, and, when they discover that complex workarounds are required, they feel that the plugs have been misrepresented to them as being accessible. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Christer Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 12:10 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: guitar rig 3 not loading after installing Sonar 8.5 producer. Any suggestions? That's not entirely true... With a little sighted help, you can get to most of the presets. Although it ain't totally comprehensive, its possible to access 80/90% of their parameters. Alright, it takes a little time/patience, but for a Native Instruments product, and if you can be bothered to invest a little time, its workable/usable! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivan Lopez" <ivanlop@xxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 12:22 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: guitar rig 3 not loading after installing Sonar 8.5 producer. Any suggestions? Brian, if I am not misrepresenting what you stated in one of our erleyer conversations, Guitar Rig is inaccesible, so why would a blind person instal it? Thanks Ivan On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:01:44 -0500 Bryan Smart <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Yep, makes sense. > > ________________________________ >From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cameron > Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 12:08 PM > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: guitar rig 3 not loading after installing Sonar >8.5 producer. Any suggestions? > > I downloaded both 8.5 and the 8.51 patch. > > > > > >From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart > Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:49 AM > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: guitar rig 3 not loading after installing Sonar >8.5 producer. Any suggestions? > > Lots of little things seem to break when you uninstall the older >8.0/8.3 of Sonar. On my system, uninstalling, even when selecting to >leave shared components, broke Z3ta such that it wouldn't load anymore. > > Did you get the download version of Sonar 8.5, or did you install for >DVD? > > Bryan > > ________________________________ >From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cameron > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 8:12 PM > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ddots-l] guitar rig 3 not loading after installing Sonar 8.5 >producer. Any suggestions? > Hi all. Yesterday I uninstalled sonar 8.31 and installed Sonar 8.5, >the 8.51 patch, and the latest snapshot of JSonar. Everything seems >fine thus far, except for guitar rig 3. Whenever I try to load it, it >says the following plug in failed to load, then it gives the path to >the vst plug in folder in the cakewalk folder. It doesn't give any >freaking reason why or solution. All there is is the okay button. >This is less than helpful. > > When I rescan failed and existing vst plug ins however, everything is >fine, I don't get any faled to load messages etc. > > But, when I try to load guitar rig 3 after the scan, I get the exact >same error. > > now, I uninstalled sonar 8.31, but, I did not uninstall guitar rig 3 >or the ni service center. If you run guitar rig 3 stand alone, it >seems to load okay, but it wil not load in sonar. > > I have an idea. I did a complete install and perhaps the guitar rig 3 >.dll file was overwritten? But that being said, there was not a "file >already exists, would you like to replace" sort of dialogue box. The >installation was not interrupted for any reason. > > Any suggestions? > > I loaded guitar rig 3 when I was still using Sonar 8.31 and you can >actually get to approx fourty of the presets from the presets list of >the plug in's window. I'm also wondering if there is a way to add them >all to that preset list. 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